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  • my msdb if too big

    i have job in server 

    my server is 2008 r2



    • Changed type ahmadiza Saturday, October 13, 2012 10:05 AM
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    • Edited by ahmadiza Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:19 AM
    Saturday, October 13, 2012 9:47 AM

Answers

  • Take a look at the largest table in your msdb database. I'm guessing that it's the jobhistory and backup tables. Cleanup your history tables and shrink the database to reclaim space. Resize it back to the appropriate size to minimize autogrowth. Implement regular cleanup of your history tables.

    Check out this article on how to improve performance on the history tables on msdb while your cleaning it up

     

    Edwin Sarmiento SQL Server MVP
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    • Proposed as answer by Shahfaisal Muhammed Saturday, October 13, 2012 4:13 PM
    • Marked as answer by ahmadiza Tuesday, October 16, 2012 6:12 AM
    Saturday, October 13, 2012 1:01 PM
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  • There are different possibilities for maintainin the msdb size.

    Example:

    Exceute

    Execute SP_PURGE_JOBHISTORY

    SP_DELETE_BACKUPHISTORY 

    Execute SP_MAINTPLAN_DELETE_LOG

    Note: There are different situations where you won’t want to delete history. Plan ahead – and only apply these procedures in accordance with system policies


    Jack Vamvas sqlserver-dba.com

    • Proposed as answer by Ramesh Babu Vavilla Monday, October 15, 2012 4:50 AM
    • Marked as answer by ahmadiza Tuesday, October 16, 2012 6:12 AM
    Sunday, October 14, 2012 4:38 PM

All replies

  • my msdb grow very rapid

    in server i have job 

    Saturday, October 13, 2012 10:33 AM
  • Take a look at the largest table in your msdb database. I'm guessing that it's the jobhistory and backup tables. Cleanup your history tables and shrink the database to reclaim space. Resize it back to the appropriate size to minimize autogrowth. Implement regular cleanup of your history tables.

    Check out this article on how to improve performance on the history tables on msdb while your cleaning it up

     

    Edwin Sarmiento SQL Server MVP
    Blog | Twitter | LinkedIn

    • Proposed as answer by Shahfaisal Muhammed Saturday, October 13, 2012 4:13 PM
    • Marked as answer by ahmadiza Tuesday, October 16, 2012 6:12 AM
    Saturday, October 13, 2012 1:01 PM
    Moderator
  • Beside history tables there could be many reason why you have a large MSDB database.

     using SSMS right click on MSDB Database-->Reports-->Standard Reports-->Disk usage by top tables and find out the biggest tables in your msdb.

    Most likely as Edwin suggested history tables (backup, sql agent jobs history etc.) are culprit but in one case I foud database mail table was huge (as email attachments are being sent using database mail and actual attachement was saved in  the sysmail_attachments system table in msdb).  You can remove database mail history using msdb.dbo.sysmail_delete_mailitems_sp

    So you should identify big tables in your msdb database and if you find something out of the bound, use appropriate puge process to reduce sizes of this table.  

    Saturday, October 13, 2012 1:35 PM
  • If your msdb jobs are too bit , we have 2 probable cases:

    • Either msdb DB has enough free space , then you can shrink it ..

    • No enough free space , so you have to search what tables consume such space which I do forecast relevant to some other third party monitor tools that store its cached results there..

    Therefore, you can run the below  query to find out fast the biggest tables having no of records to be able to mitigate its sizes

     

    use [MSDB]

    SELECT o.name,o.object_id,

    ddps.row_count

    FROM sys.indexes AS i

    INNER JOIN sys.objects AS o ON i.OBJECT_ID = o.OBJECT_ID

    INNER JOIN sys.dm_db_partition_stats AS ddps ON i.OBJECT_ID = ddps.OBJECT_ID

    AND i.index_id = ddps.index_id

    WHERE i.index_id < 2

    AND o.is_ms_shipped = 0

    ORDER BY row_count desc

    Kindly work out it and let me know you feedback


    Shehap (DB Consultant/DB Architect) Think More deeply of DB Stress Stabilities

    Sunday, October 14, 2012 2:11 AM
  • my msdb is too big

    I have many job in server

    msdb shrink is not enough after few day msdb size grow big :(

    sorry for bad english


    Sunday, October 14, 2012 5:37 AM
  • Hello,

    And how large is your bsdb database now? Several jobs and their history datasets don't need much space.

    With this script Detailed list of all tables and their size you can check which tables needs which amount of space.


    Olaf Helper

    Blog Xing

    Sunday, October 14, 2012 7:05 AM
    Moderator
  • Also look into http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/geoffh/archive/2008/01/21/MSDB-Performance-Tuning.aspx

    Best Regards,Uri Dimant SQL Server MVP, http://sqlblog.com/blogs/uri_dimant/

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    Sunday, October 14, 2012 8:02 AM
    Answerer
  • There are different possibilities for maintainin the msdb size.

    Example:

    Exceute

    Execute SP_PURGE_JOBHISTORY

    SP_DELETE_BACKUPHISTORY 

    Execute SP_MAINTPLAN_DELETE_LOG

    Note: There are different situations where you won’t want to delete history. Plan ahead – and only apply these procedures in accordance with system policies


    Jack Vamvas sqlserver-dba.com

    • Proposed as answer by Ramesh Babu Vavilla Monday, October 15, 2012 4:50 AM
    • Marked as answer by ahmadiza Tuesday, October 16, 2012 6:12 AM
    Sunday, October 14, 2012 4:38 PM
  • Hi ahmadiza,

    We can try sp_maintplan_delete_log to remove maintplan history information from the msdb tables. You also can refer to the steps on the following links about how to find why msdb database grew huge, and how to troubleshoot a large MSDB:

    Resolving Very Large MSDB:
    http://johnsterrett.com/2010/07/26/resolving-very-large-msdb/

    MSDB is too big:
    http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/forums/en-US/sqldatabaseengine/thread/d81fe528-5ce5-4d31-b758-01e716bd0ec8/


    Allen Li

    TechNet Community Support

    Monday, October 15, 2012 2:31 AM
    Moderator
  • msdb database hold the history of Agent service jobs, when did you clear the job history in your server

    this can be also done from right click on job history and click on delete and set the retain history time.

    check the image below


    Ramesh Babu Vavilla MCTS,MSBI

    Monday, October 15, 2012 5:01 AM
  • First, lets identify which table is big. You can do that by using standard report in SQL Server.
    http://blog.sqlauthority.com/2012/05/23/sql-server-standard-reports-from-sql-server-management-studio-sql-in-sixty-seconds-016-video/

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    Monday, October 15, 2012 9:56 AM
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  • hii every one

    how create job with history delete after time the automatic

    Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:05 AM
  • hii every one

    how create job with history delete after time the automatic


    Open Management Studio, Right Click on "SQL Server Agent" node, go to properties and choose "History"
    You can configure value there.

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    Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:12 AM
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