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Non-SysAdmins have been denied permission to run DTS Execution job steps without a proxy account. The step failed. RRS feed

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    • Edited by ashwan Friday, November 16, 2018 6:44 AM
    Friday, November 16, 2018 6:40 AM
  • Hi ashwan, 

    I can't see the images in your question or reply, neither using Chrome, nor Edge. 

    Here is your original reply I found from mailbox: 

    Hi Vivek

    Thank for the replay. In this way still job is running under  Service user(AD User) different to BIA team members user. Therefore they can't change the job anymore due to the job owner is different.  

    any idea that BIA users can alter jobs while job running owner is different 

    In Login properties->User Mapping->msdb, select SQLAgentOperatorRole. 

    Then, the user will be able to View/Enable/Start/View History all the jobs, including not owned jobs. 

    Please check this link:

    Setting Up Your SQL Server Agent Correctly


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    Friday, November 16, 2018 8:41 AM


  • Hi, 

    Could you reply in words, instead of images? 


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    • Edited by Yang.Z Friday, November 16, 2018 9:54 AM edit
    Friday, November 16, 2018 9:48 AM
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    Friday, November 16, 2018 6:56 PM
  • Ashwan,

    If you want the other teams to be able to execute the jobs (that run the SSIS packages) without giving them sysadmin, a workaround is to create a new login (say, JobCreator) and give it higher access to MSDB and share that login's password to all other teams. They would need to log in as "JobCreator" and create jobs. You can create a new proxy (upon a sysadmin credential) and permit "JobCreator" to use this proxy. That way, the jobs would be owned by "JobCreator" but it'll execute under the security context of the proxy (which would be a sysadmin user). No need to grant sysadmin to the teams. 

    This question looks pretty similar to your earlier question to which below was my response. You might want to read through the responses there. 

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    OK, after going through the thread, I see you have two requirements:

    1) You want any of the 6 developers to be able to edit each other's owned jobs.

    2) You want the job to run under the security context of SQL Agent Service Account and not the developer(user) who's the job owner.

    First, I'd try to avoid granting developers sysadmin as much as possible (yes, even in DEV). The reason being, if they're sysadmins, they might develop something (using the elevated access) which you might not like when it's time to promote it to prod (for example, xp_cmdshell etc.) and it might be too late to change the design or something.

    Back to your first requirement, create a new SQL login (say, JobCreator) and grant it Higher level privileges on "MSDB" only. Give it "Agent Operator", DB_Owner or whatever (just not a sysadmin). Give JobCreator's credentials to all the developers and have them log in with this account to create/modify jobs. All jobs would be owned by JobCreator. They're now good to edit each other's created jobs since all are owned by JobCreator. When it's time to promote the job to prod, just ask them to change the job owner to "SA" in the job creation script and you should be good in prod. The job would run under Agent service account.

    As for the second requirement, Since JobCreator is not a sysadmin, the job would run under its own security context (although the job step would show SQL Agent Service Account) and Fail for jobs that require higher access. For example, if you run a job that calls an SSIS package with JobCreator user as the job owner, it will fail because non-sysadmins are denied permissions to run DTS. 

    A workaround for this is to create a proxy (by logging with a sysadmin account) and the proxy's credential can be a sysadmin. Once the proxy is created, grant "JobCreator" access to this proxy and that's it. JobCreator can use this proxy in the job steps and be the job owner. The job would run under the proxy's security context.

    Saturday, November 17, 2018 12:45 AM
  • Hi Moshin

    my First requirement is looking good. as your advice. Will need to check with BIA team

    But the second option, a user who has sys admin privileges can execute the package. Even we use proxy user we need to assign a user with sysadmin privileges to run the packages.  I granted  Package owner granted SSISDB db_datareader,db_datawriter,db_ddladmin. But still execute the package other than the user who has sysadm privileges    Any alternative 

    Thank you
    • Edited by ashwan Wednesday, November 21, 2018 8:38 AM
    Wednesday, November 21, 2018 8:26 AM
  •  But still execute the package other than the user who has sysadm privileges    Any alternative 

    Is it not possible to have a dedicated AD account as the proxy with sysadmin on the server? Don't use it for anything else. That will allow you to keep JobCreator as the job owner and run the job under that proxy. Alternatively, you can use an AD account (in the proxy) by giving it enough access on the server to run "DTExec.exe" (not sysadmin). See if that helps. I would go with the former approach though if need be.


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    Wednesday, November 21, 2018 8:46 PM
  • Hi Mohsin

    Alternatively, you can use an AD account (in the proxy) by giving it enough access on the server to run "DTExec.exe" (not sysadmin). See if that helps. I would go with the former approach though if need be.

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    What access you would recommended other than sysadm. Its doesn't work other than sysadmin rights .

    Thank you

    Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:08 AM

  • What access you would recommended other than sysadm. Its doesn't work other than sysadmin rights .

    Try giving it permissions that are needed to accomplish the tasks in your package and make sure it can run the DTExec.exe. If that doesn't help, I'd, again, go to the dedicated account approach.

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    Tuesday, November 27, 2018 12:48 PM