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Sharepoint Full Farm Backup - Is My Backup Valid even if it has "fatal error" for search db ? RRS feed

  • Question

  • When I do a full farm backup, I always get the error :

    FatalError: Object Application de service de recherche failed in event OnBackup. For more information, see the spbackup.log or sprestore.log file located in the backup directory.
     InvalidOperationException: Failed to set request to pause search application

    I also did whats posted in other discussion about stoping and resuming the search : 

    $ssa = Get-SPEnterpriseSearchServiceApplication –Identity "Application de service de recherche"
    Suspend-SPEnterpriseSearchServiceApplication -Identity $ssa

    --Backup here

    Resume-SPEnterpriseSearchServiceApplication -Identity $ssa

    but still get that same error, like if the stopping doesn't work, so I have done the "clearing timer cache." like some other say, but still the same problem. Done the clearing manually :

    stop the SPtimerV4 service on a box

    navigate to c:\programdata\Microsoft\SharePoint\Config\someguid

    delete everything but Cache.ini

    edit Cache.ini and replace the number you see with the number 1

    start SPtimerV4

    So my questions  is :

    Is my backup valid even if the search DB isn't backed up ? I mean will i'll be able to restore, and just start over for the search db ?

    and  if in any case you have the solution to my problem, maybe I cant correct it, so far, im always getting that fatal errors.

    here s the printout of my $ssa :

    $ssa = Get-SPEnterpriseSearchServiceApplication -Identity "Application de service de recherche"
    echo $ssa


    Name                  : Application de service de recherche
    Id                    : df3fc5ce-c839-4a61-adec-2acf370c4b1f
    ServiceName           : SearchQueryAndSiteSettingsService
    CrawlTopologies       :
    CrawlStores           : {Application_de_service_de_recherche_CrawlStoreDB_fa1ca
                            235c5b84f448b597a0bf9424ab1}
    ActiveTopology        : TopologyId: d7438239-3ce3-4910-920d-f7b3a1e0de5b,
                            CreationDate: 3/16/2015 10:56:00 AM, State: Active,
                            Components: AdminComponent[AdminComponent1,
                            c6715986-e005-483b-940b-0c1cc96668e6] part of
                            d7438239-3ce3-4910-920d-f7b3a1e0de5b on CANACSP,
                            IndexComponent[IndexComponent1,
                            b914ceab-55fd-42d4-b42d-16a3c7f81e69] part of
                            d7438239-3ce3-4910-920d-f7b3a1e0de5b on CANACSP,
                            QueryProcessingComponent[QueryProcessingComponent1,
                            6a0d8268-1125-4248-aefe-4d3e9d4ce806] part of
                            d7438239-3ce3-4910-920d-f7b3a1e0de5b on CANACSP, Conten
                            tProcessingComponent[ContentProcessingComponent1,
                            50a1fc53-d580-499d-9df0-7a2ba4c0d713] part of
                            d7438239-3ce3-4910-920d-f7b3a1e0de5b on CANACSP, Analyt
                            icsProcessingComponent[AnalyticsProcessingComponent1,
                            e7ade842-8063-44ad-b720-dd292ea982b8] part of
                            d7438239-3ce3-4910-920d-f7b3a1e0de5b on CANACSP,
                            CrawlComponent[CrawlComponent0,
                            cca33e67-91b4-4f5e-bfb1-e43fe573fbb7] part of
                            d7438239-3ce3-4910-920d-f7b3a1e0de5b on CANACSP
    SearchAdminDatabase   : SearchAdminDatabase Name=Application_de_service_de_rech
                            erche_DB_69d90b266d184d3a9bb13105e5f75d87
    Status                : Online
    DefaultSearchProvider : SharepointSearch
    Properties            : {Microsoft.Office.Server.Utilities.SPPartitionOptions}

    Here is the complete log : (some part have been cut to make it fit)

    [8/19/2015 7:19:20 PM] Verbose: Using directory: \\Canacsp\BackupSharePoint\spbr0004\.
    [8/19/2015 7:19:20 PM] Verbose: The backup/restore process included the following objects:
    [8/19/2015 7:19:20 PM]     Farm\
            [SharePoint_Config]\
            InfoPath Forms Services\
                Settings\
                Data Connections\
                Form Templates\
                Exempt User Agents\
                    [crawler]\
                    [googlebot]\
                    [ms search]\
                    [msnbot]\
                    [msoffice]\
                    [slurp]\
            License to Feature Mappings\
            Service d’états temporaires SharePoint Server\
                [Service d’états temporaires]\
                    [StateService_b0cb1eb2fb9f4bc294f52ed2588c2ce9]\
            Microsoft SharePoint Foundation Web Application\
                SharePoint - 80\
                    WSS_Content_ac544fb261b74e08b88cf0a3449ca197\
                    WSS_Content\
                    [job-workflow-failover]\
                    [ExpirationProcessing]\
                    [SchedulingUnpublish]\
                    [job-solution-daily-resource-usage]\
                    [SearchAndProcess]\
                    [TravailOpérationEnBlocÉducation]\
                    [DocIdEnable]\
                    [DocIdAssignment]\
                    [VideoQueryRuleProvisioner]\
                    [job-audit-log-trimming]\
                    [BulkWorkflow]\
                    [ProjectPolicyTeamMailBoxJob]\
                    [HoldProcessing]\
                    [VariationsPropagatePage]\
                    [PolicyUpdateProcessing]\
                    [TranslationExport]\
                    [DocumentSetTemplateUpdate]\
                    [job-change-log-expiration]\
                    [job-dead-site-delete]\
                    [VariationsPropagateListItem]\
                    [RouterProcessingJob]\
                    [job-upgrade-workitems]\
                    [job-immediate-alerts]\
                    [job-filefragments-cleanup]\
                    [job-solution-resource-usage-update]\
                    [PersistedNavTermSetSyncJob]\
                    [job-recycle-bin-cleanup]\
                    [TranslationImport]\
                    [MetadataSubscriberTimerJob]\
                    [VariationsCreateHierarchies]\
                    [job-site-deletion]\
                    [DocumentSetMetadataSync]\
                    [job-diskquota-warning]\
                    [job-solution-resource-usage-log]\
                    [job-workflow-autoclean]\
                    [UpdateHiddenListJobDefinition]\
                [SearchChangeLogGeneratorJobDefinition]\
                [PreservationProcessingJob]\
            [WSS_Administration]\
                [SharePoint Central Administration v4]\
                    SharePoint_AdminContent_6c2ef2c7-8334-4a25-bf84-968800210499\
            Proxy de service d’états temporaires SharePoint Server\
                [Service d’états temporaires]\
            SPUserCodeV4\

    <Cut>

                [Sandboxed Code Load Balancer Provider using Popularity]\
       [8/19/2015 8:23:25 PM] Verbose: Starting object: Application de service de profil utilisateur.
    [8/19/2015 8:23:25 PM] Verbose: Starting object: Service Graphiques Visio.
    [8/19/2015 9:23:53 PM] Verbose: [Application de service de recherche] Resuming master merge.
    [8/19/2015 9:23:53 PM] Verbose: [Application de service de recherche] Resuming master mergex completed in 0.0 minutes.
    [8/19/2015 9:23:53 PM] FatalError: Object Application de service de recherche failed in event OnBackup. For more information, see the spbackup.log or sprestore.log file located in the backup directory.
     InvalidOperationException: Failed to set request to pause search application
    [8/19/2015 9:23:53 PM] Debug:    at Microsoft.Office.Server.Search.Administration.SearchServiceApplication.OnBackup(SPBackupInformation args)
    [8/19/2015 9:23:53 PM] Verbose: Starting OnBackupComplete event.
    [8/19/2015 9:23:53 PM] Verbose: Starting object: Farm.
    [8/19/2015 9:23:53 PM] Verbose: Starting object: SharePoint_Config.
    [8/19/2015 9:23:53 PM] Progress: [Farm] 100 percent complete.

    <Cut>

    [8/19/2015 9:24:08 PM] Verbose: Starting object: Application_de_service_de_recherche_DB_69d90b266d184d3a9bb13105e5f75d87.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:08 PM] Verbose: Starting object: Admin (D: on CANACSP).
    [8/19/2015 9:24:09 PM] FatalError: Object Application_de_service_de_recherche_DB_69d90b266d184d3a9bb13105e5f75d87 failed in event OnBackupComplete. For more information, see the spbackup.log or sprestore.log file located in the backup directory.
     Aborted due to error in another component.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:09 PM] Verbose: Starting object: Application_de_service_de_recherche_CrawlStoreDB_fa1ca235c5b84f448b597a0bf9424ab1.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:09 PM] FatalError: Object Admin (D: on CANACSP) failed in event OnBackupComplete. For more information, see the spbackup.log or sprestore.log file located in the backup directory.
     Aborted due to error in another component.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:09 PM] Verbose: Starting object: Application_de_service_de_recherche_LinksStoreDB_2287f16bf8ee45409e8affd0530d3dbf.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:09 PM] FatalError: Object Application_de_service_de_recherche_CrawlStoreDB_fa1ca235c5b84f448b597a0bf9424ab1 failed in event OnBackupComplete. For more information, see the spbackup.log or sprestore.log file located in the backup directory.
     Aborted due to error in another component.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:09 PM] Verbose: Starting object: Application_de_service_de_recherche_AnalyticsReportingStoreDB_7b5aeb09505548c6aa56ee98b8481692.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:09 PM] FatalError: Object Application_de_service_de_recherche_LinksStoreDB_2287f16bf8ee45409e8affd0530d3dbf failed in event OnBackupComplete. For more information, see the spbackup.log or sprestore.log file located in the backup directory.
     Aborted due to error in another component.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:09 PM] Verbose: Starting object: Search - AdminComponent1 (CANACSP).
    [8/19/2015 9:24:09 PM] FatalError: Object Application_de_service_de_recherche_AnalyticsReportingStoreDB_7b5aeb09505548c6aa56ee98b8481692 failed in event OnBackupComplete. For more information, see the spbackup.log or sprestore.log file located in the backup directory.
     Aborted due to error in another component.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:09 PM] Verbose: Starting object: Search - AnalyticsProcessingComponent1 (CANACSP).
    [8/19/2015 9:24:09 PM] FatalError: Object Search - AdminComponent1 (CANACSP) failed in event OnBackupComplete. For more information, see the spbackup.log or sprestore.log file located in the backup directory.
     Aborted due to error in another component.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:09 PM] Verbose: Starting object: Search - ContentProcessingComponent1 (CANACSP).
    [8/19/2015 9:24:09 PM] FatalError: Object Search - AnalyticsProcessingComponent1 (CANACSP) failed in event OnBackupComplete. For more information, see the spbackup.log or sprestore.log file located in the backup directory.
     Aborted due to error in another component.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:09 PM] Verbose: Starting object: Search - IndexComponent1 (CANACSP).
    [8/19/2015 9:24:09 PM] FatalError: Object Search - IndexComponent1 (CANACSP) failed in event OnBackupComplete. For more information, see the spbackup.log or sprestore.log file located in the backup directory.
     Aborted due to error in another component.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:09 PM] Verbose: Starting object: Search - QueryProcessingComponent1 (CANACSP).
    [8/19/2015 9:24:09 PM] FatalError: Object Search - ContentProcessingComponent1 (CANACSP) failed in event OnBackupComplete. For more information, see the spbackup.log or sprestore.log file located in the backup directory.
     Aborted due to error in another component.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:09 PM] Verbose: Starting object: IndexController.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:09 PM] FatalError: Object Search - QueryProcessingComponent1 (CANACSP) failed in event OnBackupComplete. For more information, see the spbackup.log or sprestore.log file located in the backup directory.
     Aborted due to error in another component.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:10 PM] Verbose: Starting object: Crawl-0 (D: on CANACSP).
    [8/19/2015 9:24:10 PM] Verbose: Starting object: Shared Services Proxies.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:10 PM] FatalError: Object Crawl-0 (D: on CANACSP) failed in event OnBackupComplete. For more information, see the spbackup.log or sprestore.log file located in the backup directory.
     Aborted due to error in another component.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:10 PM] Verbose: Starting object: Service BDC.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:10 PM] Verbose: Starting object: Application de service de conversion PowerPoint.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:10 PM] Verbose: Starting object: Word Automation Services.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:10 PM] Verbose: Starting object: Application PerformancePoint Service.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:10 PM] Verbose: Starting object: Service Banque d’informations sécurisé.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:10 PM] Verbose: Starting object: Application de service de recherche.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:10 PM] Verbose: Starting object: Service Gestion des applications.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:10 PM] Verbose: Starting object: Application de service de profil utilisateur.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:11 PM] Verbose: Starting object: Service Graphiques Visio.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:11 PM] Finish Time: 8/19/2015 9:24:11 PM.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:11 PM] Progress: Completed with errors and warnings, please refer to the log file for details.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:11 PM] Verbose: Deleting the file \\Canacsp\BackupSharePoint\spbr0004\spbackup.xml and replacing it.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:11 PM] Verbose: The backup/restore process included the following objects:
    [8/19/2015 9:24:11 PM]     Farm\
            [SharePoint_Config]\
            InfoPath Forms Services\
                Settings\
                Data Connections\
                Form Templates\
                Exempt User Agents\
                    [crawler]\
                    [googlebot]\
                    [ms search]\
                    [msnbot]\
                    [msoffice]\
                    [slurp]\
            License to Feature Mappings\
            Service d’états temporaires SharePoint Server\
                [Service d’états temporaires]\
                    [StateService_b0cb1eb2fb9f4bc294f52ed2588c2ce9]\
            Microsoft SharePoint Foundation Web Application\
                SharePoint - 80\
                    WSS_Content_ac544fb261b74e08b88cf0a3449ca197\
                    WSS_Content\
                    [job-workflow-failover]\
                    [ExpirationProcessing]\
                    [SchedulingUnpublish]\
                    [job-solution-daily-resource-usage]\
                    [SearchAndProcess]\
                    [TravailOpérationEnBlocÉducation]\
                    [DocIdEnable]\
                    [DocIdAssignment]\
                    [VideoQueryRuleProvisioner]\
                    [job-audit-log-trimming]\
                    [BulkWorkflow]\
                    [ProjectPolicyTeamMailBoxJob]\
                    [HoldProcessing]\
                    [VariationsPropagatePage]\
                    [PolicyUpdateProcessing]\
                    [TranslationExport]\
                    [DocumentSetTemplateUpdate]\
                    [job-change-log-expiration]\
                    [job-dead-site-delete]\
                    [VariationsPropagateListItem]\
                    [RouterProcessingJob]\
                    [job-upgrade-workitems]\
                    [job-immediate-alerts]\
                    [job-filefragments-cleanup]\
                    [job-solution-resource-usage-update]\
                    [PersistedNavTermSetSyncJob]\
                    [job-recycle-bin-cleanup]\
                    [TranslationImport]\
                    [MetadataSubscriberTimerJob]\
                    [VariationsCreateHierarchies]\
                    [job-site-deletion]\
                    [DocumentSetMetadataSync]\
                    [job-diskquota-warning]\
                    [job-solution-resource-usage-log]\
                    [job-workflow-autoclean]\
                    [UpdateHiddenListJobDefinition]\
                [SearchChangeLogGeneratorJobDefinition]\
                [PreservationProcessingJob]\
            [WSS_Administration]\
                [SharePoint Central Administration v4]\
                    SharePoint_AdminContent_6c2ef2c7-8334-4a25-bf84-968800210499\
            Proxy de service d’états temporaires SharePoint Server\
                [Service d’états temporaires]\
            SPUserCodeV4\
                [Sandboxed Code Load Balancer Provider using Popularity]\
                [AbnormalProcessTerminationCount]\
                [CPUExecutionTime]\
                [CriticalExceptionCount]\
                [IdlePercentProcessorTime]\
                [InvocationCount]\
                [PercentProcessorTime]\
                [ProcessCPUCycles]\
                [ProcessHandleCount]\
                [ProcessIOBytes]\
                [ProcessThreadCount]\
                [ProcessVirtualBytes]\
                [SharePointDatabaseQueryCount]\
                [SharePointDatabaseQueryTime]\
                [UnhandledExceptionCount]\
                [UnresponsiveprocessCount]\
                [Microsoft.SharePoint.Administration.SPUserCodeExecutionTier]\
            [Service de diagnostic Microsoft SharePoint Server]\
            Global Search Settings\
            [Workflow Services Proxy]\
            [Microsoft.Ceres.Diagnostics.Administration.DiagnosticsService]\
            [Microsoft SQL Server Reporting Services Diagnostics]\
            [Microsoft SQL Server Reporting Services SharePoint Integration Diagnostics]\
            [Microsoft SharePoint Foundation Diagnostics Service]\
            Shared Services\
                Shared Services Applications\
                    Service Banque d’informations sécurisé\
                        [https]\
                        [Secure_Store_Service_DB_ddf16e3789fd41a2b01880ed317f28f5]\
                    Application de service de conversion PowerPoint\
                        [fast]\
                        [secure]\
                    Application PerformancePoint Service\
                        [http]\
                        [https]\
                        [Application PerformancePoint Service_99bb9757e8dc4d2f83891faed48ffef1]\
                    Service Graphiques Visio\
                        [Service application endpoint]\
                        [https]\
                    Service Gestion des applications\
                        [http]\
                        [https]\
                        [AppMng_Service_DB_25acc5a7d2d54a4499c7f857f0793282]\
                    Application Excel Services\
                        [http]\
                        [https]\
                    SecurityTokenServiceApplication\
                        ClaimEncodingManager\
                        SecurityTokenServiceManager\
                        ClaimProviderManager\
                    Word Automation Services\
                        [http]\
                        [https]\
                        [ServicesAutomatisationWord_cca3f55df8f34f93a50dd093ed15ff5a]\
                    Application de service de profil utilisateur\
                        [http]\
                        [https]\
                        [Application de service de profil utilisateur_ProfileDB_b39b28e054994776b2ec2fd95d9e1418]\
                        [Application de service de profil utilisateur_SyncDB_f5a93835735840b294ffaf5b865200dd]\
                        [Application de service de profil utilisateur_SocialDB_baa51894fd2b4650a0a495ed0c1dad17]\
                        [Application de service de profil utilisateur_LanguageSynchronizationJob]\
                        [Application de service de profil utilisateur_ProfileSynchronizationJob]\
                        [Application de service de profil utilisateur_UserProfileChangeJob]\
                        [Application de service de profil utilisateur_ProfileImportJob]\
                        [Application de service de profil utilisateur_UserProfileChangeCleanupJob]\
                        [Application de service de profil utilisateur_MySiteSuggestionEmailJob]\
                        [Application de service de profil utilisateur_ActivityFeedCleanupJob]\
                        [Application de service de profil utilisateur_ActivityFeedJob]\
                        [Application de service de profil utilisateur_AudienceCompilationJob]\
                        [Application de service de profil utilisateur_SocialDataMaintenanceJob]\
                    Service BDC\
                        [http]\
                        [https]\
                        [Bdc_Service_DB_f243f3682f714b59a902fe50fdf6a914]\
                    *Application de service de recherche\
                        [http]\
                        [https]\
                        *Application_de_service_de_recherche_DB_69d90b266d184d3a9bb13105e5f75d87\
                            *[Admin (D: on CANACSP)]\
                        *[Application_de_service_de_recherche_CrawlStoreDB_fa1ca235c5b84f448b597a0bf9424ab1]\
                        *[Application_de_service_de_recherche_LinksStoreDB_2287f16bf8ee45409e8affd0530d3dbf]\
                        *[Application_de_service_de_recherche_AnalyticsReportingStoreDB_7b5aeb09505548c6aa56ee98b8481692]\
                        *[Search - AdminComponent1 (CANACSP)]\
                        *[Search - AnalyticsProcessingComponent1 (CANACSP)]\
                        *[Search - ContentProcessingComponent1 (CANACSP)]\
                        *[Search - IndexComponent1 (CANACSP)]\
                        *[Search - QueryProcessingComponent1 (CANACSP)]\
                        [IndexController]\
                        *[Crawl-0 (D: on CANACSP)]\
                Shared Services Proxies\
                    Service BDC\
                    Application de service de conversion PowerPoint\
                    Word Automation Services\
                    Application PerformancePoint Service\
                    Service Banque d’informations sécurisé\
                    Application de service de recherche\
                    Service Gestion des applications\
                    Application de service de profil utilisateur\
                    Service Graphiques Visio\

    [8/19/2015 9:24:11 PM] Finished with 1 warnings.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:11 PM] Finished with 12 errors.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:11 PM] FatalError: Backup failed for Object Crawl-0 (D: on CANACSP) failed in event OnBackupComplete. For more information, see the spbackup.log or sprestore.log file located in the backup directory.
    [8/19/2015 9:24:11 PM] -------------------------------------------------

    Thursday, August 20, 2015 1:28 PM

Answers

  • I finally found it :

    the answer to the direct question :

    Sharepoint Full Farm Backup - Is My Backup Valid even if it has "fatal error" for search db ?

    is NO, as stated by Sara Fan in this thread

    https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/sqlserver/en-US/2622beec-46fa-4d34-8c9d-d57b59627077/sharepoint-2013-backup-is-it-valid-even-if-it-shows-error-about-search-?forum=sharepointgeneral

    To solve my problem I had to

    - install the KB2765317.

    - add read/write access to my shared folder . I gave full acess for all user having the db role SPSearchDBAdmin for the database having the problem.

      (even though the error wasn't access denied, was so easy to guess!).

    - make sure all the applications associations where checked for the search application services. They were not since I created a new search application services. 

    sorry French version here , but the path to go there is :Gestion des Applications / Gerer les aplications Web /  (for each app web, select "connexions aux services", and make sure they are all checked

    thanks

    Valérie

    • Marked as answer by Valérie r Wednesday, September 2, 2015 3:02 PM
    Wednesday, September 2, 2015 3:02 PM

All replies

  • Hi ,

    Please try granting the Read/Write permission (even full control) to SharePoint Farm account on your FolderShare which is used to store the backup database, then check result again.

    https://social.technet.microsoft.com/forums/sharepoint/en-US/0f84564a-4a99-4999-b8a9-78041cf80a52/sharepoint-foundation-error-when-performing-a-farm-backup

    Thanks


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    • Edited by star.wars Monday, August 24, 2015 8:35 AM
    Monday, August 24, 2015 8:17 AM
  • All done, permissions are ok, else the error I would get would be access denied. I also do the pause/resume , etc..

    The problem I had what that I needed to install the KB2765317

    But now I get this error when doing it :

    [8/26/2015 6:11:47 PM] FatalError: Object Application de service de recherche CanacSp failed in event OnBackup. For more information, see the spbackup.log or sprestore.log file located in the backup directory.
     FaultException: Management called failed with System.InvalidOperationException: 'Job failed: Member SP3e4bd80a2151.0:I.0.0 failed during second phase with error: 'Microsoft.Ceres.SearchCore.Services.Seeding.BackupRestoreSeedingException: Member I.0.0 was lost from cluster SP3e4bd80a2151.0'' at    at Microsoft.Ceres.SearchCore.IndexController.BackupService.ThrowOnFailure(JobStatus status)
       at Microsoft.Ceres.SearchCore.IndexController.BackupService.ProgressSecondPhase(String handle)
       at Microsoft.Ceres.SearchCore.IndexController.IndexControllerManagementAgent.WrapCall[T](Func`2 original)
    [8/26/2015 6:11:47 PM] Debug:
    Server stack trace:
       at System.ServiceModel.Channels.ServiceChannel.HandleReply(ProxyOperationRuntime operation, ProxyRpc& rpc)
       at System.ServiceModel.Channels.ServiceChannel.Call(String action, Boolean oneway, ProxyOperationRuntime operation, Object[] ins, Object[] outs, TimeSpan timeout)
       at System.ServiceModel.Channels.ServiceChannelProxy.InvokeService(IMethodCallMessage methodCall, ProxyOperationRuntime operation)
       at System.ServiceModel.Channels.ServiceChannelProxy.Invoke(IMessage message)

    Exception rethrown at [0]:
       at System.Runtime.Remoting.Proxies.RealProxy.HandleReturnMessage(IMessage reqMsg, IMessage retMsg)
       at System.Runtime.Remoting.Proxies.RealProxy.PrivateInvoke(MessageData& msgData, Int32 type)
       at Microsoft.Ceres.SearchCore.Admin.IIndexControllerManagementAgent.ProgressSecondPhase(String handle)
       at Microsoft.Office.Server.Search.Administration.BRIndexComponent.RetryWhileNoEndPoint[T](Func`2 action, SPBackupRestoreInformation args, Guid ssaId, TimeSpan retryTimeout)
       at Microsoft.Office.Server.Search.Administration.BRIndexComponent.RetryWhileNoEndPoint[T](Func`2 action, SPBackupRestoreInformation args, Guid ssaId, TimeSpan retryTimeout)
       at Microsoft.Office.Server.Search.Administration.BRIndexComponent.<>c__DisplayClass13`1.<RetryWhileNoEndPoint>b__12()
       at Microsoft.SharePoint.SPSecurity.<>c__DisplayClass5.<RunWithElevatedPrivileges>b__3()
       at Microsoft.SharePoint.Utilities.SecurityContext.RunAsProcess(CodeToRunElevated secureCode)
       at Microsoft.SharePoint.SPSecurity.RunWithElevatedPrivileges(WaitCallback secureCode, Object param)
       at Microsoft.SharePoint.SPSecurity.RunWithElevatedPrivileges(CodeToRunElevated secureCode)
       at Microsoft.Office.Server.Search.Administration.BRIndexComponent.RetryWhileNoEndPoint[T](Func`2 action, SPBackupRestoreInformation args, Guid ssaId)
       at Microsoft.Office.Server.Search.Administration.BRIndexComponent.WaitPhaseComplete(SPBackupInformation args, Func`2 getProgress, Int32 sleepTime)
       at Microsoft.Office.Server.Search.Administration.BRIndexComponent.WaitSecondPhaseBackupComplete(SPBackupInformation args)
       at Microsoft.Office.Server.Search.Administration.TwoPhaseBackupHelper.WaitSecondPhaseBackupCompleteChildren(SPBackupInformation args)
       at Microsoft.Office.Server.Search.Administration.SearchServiceApplication.OnBackup(SPBackupInformation args)

    sorry my question got posted several times, cause when I tried to post it the first time, I was always getting an error 502.

    Thursday, August 27, 2015 12:31 PM
  • I finally found it :

    the answer to the direct question :

    Sharepoint Full Farm Backup - Is My Backup Valid even if it has "fatal error" for search db ?

    is NO, as stated by Sara Fan in this thread

    https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/sqlserver/en-US/2622beec-46fa-4d34-8c9d-d57b59627077/sharepoint-2013-backup-is-it-valid-even-if-it-shows-error-about-search-?forum=sharepointgeneral

    To solve my problem I had to

    - install the KB2765317.

    - add read/write access to my shared folder . I gave full acess for all user having the db role SPSearchDBAdmin for the database having the problem.

      (even though the error wasn't access denied, was so easy to guess!).

    - make sure all the applications associations where checked for the search application services. They were not since I created a new search application services. 

    sorry French version here , but the path to go there is :Gestion des Applications / Gerer les aplications Web /  (for each app web, select "connexions aux services", and make sure they are all checked

    thanks

    Valérie

    • Marked as answer by Valérie r Wednesday, September 2, 2015 3:02 PM
    Wednesday, September 2, 2015 3:02 PM