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  • Sometime ago I posted a Connect item " ": http://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/feedback/details/698231/windows-8-server-preview-server-manager-crash-after-disjoining-from-a-virtual-dc

    But I haven't seen any response to it.  So, have anyone seen this behaviour of the "Server Manager" crashing all the time after disjoining a Domain controller.

    In my scenario, I have a physical Windows 8 Server with Hyper-V role who has joined a DC in a virtual machine, and this work Great!!  But, when I decide to rebuild my DC, and disjoining the DC then Server Manager crashes all the time.

    Now, I'm posting this now because I did rebuild another DC in a new VM and labeled my domain with the same name I had before and "SURPRISE"!!  I just cleared the condition, and Server Manager is not crashing again.

    So, can someone give it a try?

    BTW, the good thing in my scenario, I never had to rebuild my physical Windows 8 Server and I'm happy for that.

    This has been a good UX!


    Thanks, Max Trinidad Microsoft MVP - PowerShell Florida PowerShell User Group: http://www.flpsug.com/ Blog: http://www.maxtblog.com/ Old Blog: http://maxt2posh.wordpress.com/ Follow me on Twitter: @MaxTrinidad Member of: CITGA, UGSS, INETA and PASS.
    Wednesday, December 14, 2011 7:59 PM

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  • I had a clean install of the Dev Server, and after renaming it to a different server name, it crashes system manager after a reboot. But I can't completely conform your theory working as I don't remember what the name of the server was before I renamed it.
    Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:16 AM
  • Hi there!!,

    Looks like you found another scenario where the Server Manager could crash. 

    Here's my environment:

    1. My physical machine is a standalone computer with Window 8 Server Preview installed as a member of "WORKGROUP".

    2. In this physical machine, I installed the Hyper-V role, enable PowerShell ISE, and among a few more things.

    3. Then, having Hyper-V enabled, proceeded to create my Network Switched for: Loopback, Network, and Wireless.

    4. I create a Windows Server 2008 R2 STD Virtual Machine, assigned a permanent IP Address, Installed the File Server, and AD Role.  Then, ran the DCPromo wizard.

    At this point, I make sure I had all IP addresses, and firewall setting set correctly so my physical Workgroup server can communicate with my Virtual Machine.  Then, I make my physical machine a member of a "Domain" (my newly created Virtual Machine DC).  This works GREAT!!

    Now, if you go back to the Physical Wndows Server 8 machine and changet it back to be a member of a "WORKGROUP" then the Server Manager crashes all them.

    Now, to clear this condition, I had to join back to the same domain I had it before.  I haven't try to change the name on my physcal machine running Windows 8 Preview but I will try this on a VM using Snapshot to see is SM crashes too.

    Keep you posted!

    Max

     


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    Thursday, December 15, 2011 2:00 PM
  • create crash dumps of the crashing servermanager, zip and upload them.
    "A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code"

    Thursday, December 15, 2011 2:05 PM
  • Hi there!

    You will have to forgive me but my knowledge is enough to work around system and solve problems.  So, I need a little help:

    1. "Create crash dumps ..."- I know that the system will do this but, would you be kind to tell me where the dump are crearted? 

    Then, YES! I could upload them to my connect item.

    Thanks & I appreciate the help,

    Max


    Thanks, Max Trinidad Microsoft MVP - PowerShell Florida PowerShell User Group: http://www.flpsug.com/ Blog: http://www.maxtblog.com/ Old Blog: http://maxt2posh.wordpress.com/ Follow me on Twitter: @MaxTrinidad Member of: CITGA, UGSS, INETA and PASS.
    Thursday, December 15, 2011 2:19 PM
  • Use Procdump or the Windows Error reporting service:

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb787181%28VS.85%29.aspx

    Compress the dmp as 7z and upload it to your public SkyDrive and post the link here so that members of the Server tema can download the dumps and check them.


    "A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code"

    Thursday, December 15, 2011 2:24 PM
  • Thanks Andre.  I will recreate teh condition today and create the dump file.

    I'll keep you posted.

    Max


    Thanks, Max Trinidad Microsoft MVP - PowerShell Florida PowerShell User Group: http://www.flpsug.com/ Blog: http://www.maxtblog.com/ Old Blog: http://maxt2posh.wordpress.com/ Follow me on Twitter: @MaxTrinidad Member of: CITGA, UGSS, INETA and PASS.
    Thursday, December 15, 2011 2:31 PM
  • Hi Gavin,

    Guess what! You just got another bug identified.  Using a Virtual Machine, I just replicated you SM crashing when rename the computer name. 

    Please, file a Connect Item, send me the link, and I will vote for it.

    :)

    Max


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    Thursday, December 15, 2011 2:47 PM
  • Here it is...  I'm sorry to say that, after I rejoined my physical machine to my virtual domain I couldn't replicate the problem.

    BUT, I was able to replicate twice Server Manager crashing when joined to a Domain while logging in using the "localServer\Administrator" user name. So, here's the Dumps created for the above conditions:

    https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=7fd7082276c66197&resid=7FD7082276C66197!353&parid=7FD7082276C66197!351

    Thanks for your patience,

    Max


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    Thursday, December 15, 2011 7:59 PM
  • Please forgive me, I have no idea how to file a Connect item. I am new to learning about computers!
    :)

    Gavin 

    Thursday, December 15, 2011 8:51 PM
  • Don't Worry Gavin!!  We all started somewhere, and technology always changing. :)

    I gathered enough information, and post the link of my Server Manager crash dump so they can investigate what's wrong.

    I appreciate collaborating with this issue.

    Thanks,

    Max


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    Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:06 PM
  • The dumps shows me nothing useful. Wait for a reply of a MSFT employee of the server team.
    "A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code"

    Saturday, December 17, 2011 7:58 PM
  • You can submit feedback using the Windows Feedback Tool from the Connect Site associated with your Windows Developer Preview program.

    If you’re an MSDN subscriber, the information on how to join the Connect program is included on the download page where you installed Windows Developer Preview. There’s a link to the Connect site and an invitation code that you can click on to join using a Windows Live ID account. If you’re not an MSDN subscriber follow this limited use
    link to join the Connect program and then follow the steps here.

    If you are prompted for an invitation code, please enter the following key. MSDN-76H9-3CFP

    https://connect.microsoft.com/site1147/InvitationUse.aspx?ProgramID=7221&InvitationID=MSDN-76H9-3CFP

     

    Thanks,


    Marilyn
    Sunday, December 18, 2011 8:27 PM
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  • Hi Marilyn,

    Here's the connect link I submitted the Windows 8 Dump on Server Manager:

    https://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/feedback/details/698231/windows-8-server-preview-server-manager-crash-after-disjoining-from-a-virtual-dc

    I want to point out, after rejoing my physical Windows 8 Server to my Virtual Machine (Windows 2008 R2 STD) domain, the error doesn't show when I'm using my domain admin user.  But, If I change my Admin user to a localmachine name then Server Manager crashes all the time.

    Please, let me know if you need anything else.

    I appreciate taking the time to look into this issue.

    :)

    Max Trinidad


    Thanks, Max Trinidad Microsoft MVP - PowerShell Florida PowerShell User Group: http://www.flpsug.com/ Blog: http://www.maxtblog.com/ Old Blog: http://maxt2posh.wordpress.com/ Follow me on Twitter: @MaxTrinidad Member of: CITGA, UGSS, INETA and PASS.
    Monday, December 19, 2011 6:37 PM