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Two-tier small farm vs Three-tier small farm

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We are in the process of installing SharePoint 2010 but I am currently confused between the two-tier small farm and the three-tier small farm. I am looking at Microsoft Topologies posters from this link http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=6096 and I am wondering if anyone can tell me the difference between the two-tier small farm and the three-tier small farm? The only difference I see is that the WFE are load balanced? We only have three servers so I am not able to load balance my WFE because one of those servers is our SQL Server.Wednesday, February 1, 2012 3:27 PM
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If you only have 3 servers in the farm, and one of those is a SQL server, you're going to get the most bang for your buck by setting up the two WFEs as load balanced so you achive some semblance of high availability (HA).
The other thing you want to do is when running PSCONFIG for the first time is to make sure both of your WFEs host the Central Admin, for the exact same reason that you want to have HA as much as possible and if you only host it on one server then whe it goes down you lose your CA as well.
Finally, if at all possible, get another SQL server for a clustered node if you can - redundancy is a wonderful thing. OR - even better if you have 2 datacenters available run 1 WFE in each datacenter, your prod DB in one DC w/ a mirrored DB in the other and go for a stretched farm approach - pretty much bulletproof, but it gets expensive.
I would not worry about breaking out the Application Services from the WFEs unless for some reason things like Excel Serivices and other BI information is being heavily utilized by the company. We mainly use ours for collaboration and file storage and despite the heavy improvements in SP BI I still haven't convinced the business to give powerpivot a serious try yet....
- Proposed as answer by StevenJones Thursday, February 2, 2012 1:15 AM
- Marked as answer by Dranium Thursday, February 2, 2012 1:10 PM
Wednesday, February 1, 2012 3:55 PM -
Hi Dranium,
Its all about Number of users going to use the SPServer.
If less than 10,000 user go with two WebServer.One is for WFE and another one is with WFE search services.
In three tier your WFE will have the web roles and search query components.
All other services will be separated in the different box and your databases related to all including Search and Profiles DB will be residing on different box.
Already you have 3 Server,I would suggest its good to go 2 tier farm topology.
Please let me know if my post was helpful.- Marked as answer by Dranium Thursday, February 2, 2012 1:10 PM
Wednesday, February 1, 2012 3:38 PM -
Use the same steps but move all services which will run in application server to WFE Servers
Regards, Fadi Abdulwahab. http://sqlgoogler.blogspot.com/ Please click "Propose As Answer" if a post solves your problem or "Vote As Helpful" if a post has been useful to you- Marked as answer by Dranium Thursday, February 2, 2012 1:06 PM
Wednesday, February 1, 2012 10:28 PM
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Hi Dranium,
Its all about Number of users going to use the SPServer.
If less than 10,000 user go with two WebServer.One is for WFE and another one is with WFE search services.
In three tier your WFE will have the web roles and search query components.
All other services will be separated in the different box and your databases related to all including Search and Profiles DB will be residing on different box.
Already you have 3 Server,I would suggest its good to go 2 tier farm topology.
Please let me know if my post was helpful.- Marked as answer by Dranium Thursday, February 2, 2012 1:10 PM
Wednesday, February 1, 2012 3:38 PM -
If you only have 3 servers in the farm, and one of those is a SQL server, you're going to get the most bang for your buck by setting up the two WFEs as load balanced so you achive some semblance of high availability (HA).
The other thing you want to do is when running PSCONFIG for the first time is to make sure both of your WFEs host the Central Admin, for the exact same reason that you want to have HA as much as possible and if you only host it on one server then whe it goes down you lose your CA as well.
Finally, if at all possible, get another SQL server for a clustered node if you can - redundancy is a wonderful thing. OR - even better if you have 2 datacenters available run 1 WFE in each datacenter, your prod DB in one DC w/ a mirrored DB in the other and go for a stretched farm approach - pretty much bulletproof, but it gets expensive.
I would not worry about breaking out the Application Services from the WFEs unless for some reason things like Excel Serivices and other BI information is being heavily utilized by the company. We mainly use ours for collaboration and file storage and despite the heavy improvements in SP BI I still haven't convinced the business to give powerpivot a serious try yet....
- Proposed as answer by StevenJones Thursday, February 2, 2012 1:15 AM
- Marked as answer by Dranium Thursday, February 2, 2012 1:10 PM
Wednesday, February 1, 2012 3:55 PM -
Thank you for the replies Murugesa and ieDaddy. If I setup my WFEs as load balanced do I need to specify one of those servers with search services or do I need to setup the search services on both?Wednesday, February 1, 2012 5:28 PM
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You only create search service one time in first server then go to modify topology of Search Service App and create index & query component to second server . [Note: here if the first server down then the second server will serve the search]
Regards, Fadi Abdulwahab. http://sqlgoogler.blogspot.com/ Please click "Propose As Answer" if a post solves your problem or "Vote As Helpful" if a post has been useful to you- Edited by Fadi Abdulwahab Wednesday, February 1, 2012 5:39 PM
Wednesday, February 1, 2012 5:36 PM -
Thank you for the reply Fadi. Last question, I promise! Do you know of any site that explains the installation for 2 load balanced WFEs? I found this site http://sharepointsolutions.com/sharepoint-help/blog/2011/02/how-to-scale-out-a-sharepoint-2010-farm-from-two-tier-to-three-tier-by-adding-a-dedicated-application-server/ but the topology is different from mine.Wednesday, February 1, 2012 7:45 PM
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Use the same steps but move all services which will run in application server to WFE Servers
Regards, Fadi Abdulwahab. http://sqlgoogler.blogspot.com/ Please click "Propose As Answer" if a post solves your problem or "Vote As Helpful" if a post has been useful to you- Marked as answer by Dranium Thursday, February 2, 2012 1:06 PM
Wednesday, February 1, 2012 10:28 PM