Why no English forum for VB6?

Question

They direct VB6 questions to other servers.

They say there are no VB6 forums on this system.  They lie!

Here's a VB6 forum in French: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/fr-FR/vb6fr/threads

Here's a VB5/6 forum in Spanish: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/es-ES/vb56es/threads

So why are the English speaking customers getting the raw deal here?  Not to mention being being passively and actively lied to, in the process?

Enquiring minds...

 

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Answer 1

And here's a "VB Klassik" forum in German: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/de-DE/vbklassikde/threads

 

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Answer 2

Hi Karl,

How quick did you find these? >>

 

 

Here's a VB6 forum in French: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/fr-FR/vb6fr/threads

Here's a VB5/6 forum in Spanish: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/es-ES/vb56es/threads

 

Karl that German was is about VB6 issues and "Interop and Upgrade"

Interoperabilität und Upgrade

Diskutieren Sie hier Visual Basic 6.0 (VB6)-Themen oder besprechen Sie, wie Sie Ihre Anwendung von VB6 zu VB.NET migrieren können.

Google Chrome automatic translation.>>

"Discuss this Visual Basic 6.0 (VB6) issues or discuss how you can migrate your application from VB6 to VB.NET."

 

There is an English Interop and Upgrade forum in here.>>

http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/visualbasic

but again, that forum is NOT for VB6 questions. :-(

 

 

Regards,

John

Answer 3

How quick did you find these?

I was just browsing the NNTP bridge groups, and they sorta stuck right out. Why?

Karl that German was is about VB6 issues and "Interop and Upgrade"

Interoperabilität und Upgrade

Diskutieren Sie hier Visual Basic 6.0 (VB6)-Themen oder besprechen Sie, wie Sie Ihre Anwendung von VB6 zu VB.NET migrieren können.

"Discuss this Visual Basic 6.0 (VB6) issues or discuss how you can migrate your application from VB6 to VB.NET."

Yeah, see how they use OR there, rather than NOT?  That's more than a bit different from the English offering with a similar name.

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Answer 4

John,

Very strange, but I assume that if we point to much on those forums, the only result will most probably be, that those forums will be closed, not the oposite.

Then we make probably a lot of persons unhappy and that is not my goal and I assume also not yours.

 

 

 

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:-)
Cor

Answer 5

They direct VB6 questions to other servers .

They say there are no VB6 forums on this system.  They lie!

Here's a VB6 forum in French: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/fr-FR/vb6fr/threads

Here's a VB5/6 forum in Spanish: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/es-ES/vb56es/threads

So why are the English speaking customers getting the raw deal here?  Not to mention being being passively and actively lied to, in the process?

Enquiring minds...

Those have apparently been there for a while and I didn't even know they existed. I wonder what's up with that? I guess English has been relegated to a second class language. ;-)

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Answer 6

John,

Very strange, but I assume that if we point to much on those forums, the only result will most probably be, that those forums will be closed, not the oposite.

Then we make probably a lot of persons unhappy and that is not my goal and I assume also not yours.

 

 

 

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:-)
Cor

Hi Cor,

Yes I certainly hope that those VB6 forums will not be closed.

Now I wish I could write and understand Spanish or / and French. :-P

 

Regards,

John

Answer 7

Was English ever in the majors, Spanish and French are defintely more spoken in more countries as first languages in the world.

Ahhh now I understand you English is the most used as second language in the world, therefore second class

:-)

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Cor

Hi again Cor,

Well, I've heard Chinese is the most spoken due to the population of China.

Though I've heard that a lot of Chinese business men & women are also learning English.

I've heard that a new language may emerge which is a cross between English and Chinese

 in the future where words like "LALIO" means RADIO. Believe it or not. :-S

 

I have also heard that English is the most widely used language on the internet however, so

 if that is TRUE I would not call English a second class language.

I just thought I'd add my 2 English - British pence worth!!  ;-)

 

Regards,

John

Answer 8

Karl obviously MS wants you to broaden your horizons and learn a new language French, German or .Net…

{:-o

 

Answer 9

Karl obviously MS wants you to broaden your horizons and learn a new language French, German or .Net…

{:-o

 

LOL!

:-D

Answer 10

Karl obviously MS wants you to broaden your horizons and learn a new language French, German or .Net…

{:-o

 

Hahaha... I suggest Rosetta Stone or Visual Basic 2010 Step by Step.

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Answer 11

Hi TechNoHick,

ROFLMAO!!

;-)   :-D   :-)   :-]   :-}

I wonder how many people will start participating in the VB6 forums now they have been shown here.

Surely we have some bilingual or multilingual forum users?  :-)  I'm not one of them them though. :-(

Would it give me an additional reason to learn French seeing it is close to England? .... I'd have to think about it!!  :-)

 

Regards,

John

Answer 12

Very strange, but I assume that if we point to much on those forums, the only result will most probably be, that those forums will be closed, not the oposite.

Actually, the German group was just recently created, in response to the closing of the news server.  They asked; they recieved.

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Answer 13

Those have apparently been there for a while

Yes, I think the ES and FR groups have been, but it's my understanding that the DE group was only recently created. 

and I didn't even know they existed. I wonder what's up with that?

They were very well hidden.  I only discovered them by browsing the NNTP feed.  Which is probably the more likely thing to be removed, rather than what Cor feared, given how it provides a discoverability that causes trouble controlling an obviously controversial message.

I guess English has been relegated to a second class language.

Used to be, that was just in California, too.  Go figure...  Guess it's spread up the Left Coast? 

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Answer 14

> Karl obviously MS wants you to broaden your horizons and learn

> a new language French, German or .Net…

 

LOL!!! Then I'd still have to disappoint them, because I'd choose

Spanish over any of those. ;-)

 

 

 

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Answer 15

Something I was thinking about earlier: Given that VB6 is much older than VB Net, I would imagine that the newsgroup that you're used to was filled mainly with well-seasoned developers, not "newbies"?

Answer 16

Something I was thinking about earlier: Given that VB6 is much older than VB Net, I would imagine that the newsgroup that you're used to was filled mainly with well-seasoned developers, not "newbies"?

Hi Frank,

I think so, one of the guys was called Herb.

LOL!! ;-)

Some were on spirit drinks that are made with herbs like Morgans Spiced and Drambuie.  :-D

( Note if you do drink alcohol: please do so responsibly ).

 

Regards,

John

Answer 17

Something I was thinking about earlier: Given that VB6 is much older than VB Net, I would imagine that the newsgroup that you're used to was filled mainly with well-seasoned developers, not "newbies"?

Somehow or another, newbs would still find it.  But yeah, for the most part, all the regulars were old-timers.

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Answer 18

Somehow or another, newbs would still find it.  But yeah, for the most part, all the regulars were old-timers.

Well the reason that I asked was that I figure being here - where many people pop in who are quite unfamiliar with programming at all - would pose an additional burden if you're used to a "higher level of dialogue".

Answer 19

Why this call for VB7 now ? M$ switched to .net in what 2003 ? Where have you been for the last 7 years ?

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Answer 20

Why this call for VB7 now ? M$ switched to .net in what 2003 ? Where have you been for the last 7 years ?

Moi?  Living happily ever after, of course. <eye roll>

So you're saying you haven't heard, hmmm?  Microsoft has just released VBA7 with Office 2010.  

Read more about it.

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