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help updating windows ce 6.0 RRS feed

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  • i am trying to update my sylvania netbook. it has win embedded ce 6.0. i want to give it 6.0 r3 for obvious reasons. i have everything microsoft website says i need ie visual studio 2005 (full) and everything else. it lets me make the custom design but what do i do after i click sysgen? i looked for it in device emulator manager but couldnt see it. how do i emulate the os to test it? also how do i get it into a file i can use on the netbook like a .cab? or do i have to flash the netbook somehow? how would i do that? it has usb, sd slot, ethernet, and wireless. any help on how to get the update onto the device would be much much much much much appreciated!!!! thank you to anyone who can help or tries to help in any way.
    Friday, October 8, 2010 9:51 PM

Answers

    1. Updating a device like your netbook could have irreversable effects.  That is you could potentially cause some/all features of the netbook to no longer be usable.
    2. No, I don't see any obvious reasons for you to update to R3 - none at all.  What are the obvious reasons that you can think of?
    3. How do you update it?  Well that would depend on where and how the OS is stored on your netbook - which we don't know anything about other than the brand.
    4. Emulator - no.  The emulator is for ARM processors, your netbook is most likely an x86.
    5. Emulator - no.  The emulator is better for testing OS features and applications, it is not so good for testing your OS and especially not for testing your drivers.
    6. Last and most important Windows CE is not like Windows XP/Vista/7.  It is not designed to be updated by the consumer, which you may be.  It is designed to be updated by the OEM, which Sylvania is.  Updates require a Board Support Package (BSP) for the system.  Now your netbook may be very similar to CEPC, but that doesn't guarantee that CEPC will work for your netbook completly.  So unless you are prepared to accept that your netbook no longer functions as well as it did, stop now and use the OS that is already installed on it.

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    Friday, October 8, 2010 10:41 PM
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    1. Updating a device like your netbook could have irreversable effects.  That is you could potentially cause some/all features of the netbook to no longer be usable.
    2. No, I don't see any obvious reasons for you to update to R3 - none at all.  What are the obvious reasons that you can think of?
    3. How do you update it?  Well that would depend on where and how the OS is stored on your netbook - which we don't know anything about other than the brand.
    4. Emulator - no.  The emulator is for ARM processors, your netbook is most likely an x86.
    5. Emulator - no.  The emulator is better for testing OS features and applications, it is not so good for testing your OS and especially not for testing your drivers.
    6. Last and most important Windows CE is not like Windows XP/Vista/7.  It is not designed to be updated by the consumer, which you may be.  It is designed to be updated by the OEM, which Sylvania is.  Updates require a Board Support Package (BSP) for the system.  Now your netbook may be very similar to CEPC, but that doesn't guarantee that CEPC will work for your netbook completly.  So unless you are prepared to accept that your netbook no longer functions as well as it did, stop now and use the OS that is already installed on it.

    Bruce Eitman (eMVP)
    Senior Engineer
    Bruce.Eitman AT Eurotech DOT com
    My BLOG http://geekswithblogs.net/bruceeitman

    Eurotech Inc.
    www.Eurotech.com
    Friday, October 8, 2010 10:41 PM
    Moderator
  • I am sorry, i thought it was obvious because it has ce 6.0, without any updates so it doesnt do much other than check email, whereas most other netbooks run flash and silverlight, and well don't usually run CE, and i know it was only 99 dollors, and these things were not on the list but i must have these features. i have seen other ce 6.0 netbooks with that r3 build and they did have those features. i am only 16 and go to a school that doesnt offer many computer courses so everything i have learned i recieved from forums and other sites. collage will be a different story, but until then i will only have the internet. the system properties say the processor is "WMT, ARM-WM8505". the model number is synet07526. any more help you can offer me would be much appreciated. i am willing to try anything cause i have two so i can test on one. maybe theres a way to put flash and silverlight on it without updateing to r3? help me obi bruce kenobi, your my only hope.
    Sunday, October 24, 2010 8:00 PM
  • I am looking at the same problem - have read numerous threads with no definitive answer. I have come across this link for software to run on CE 6 which might help you get more from your Netbook.

    You'll want to look for handheld pc or pocket pc software for ARM devices. On that note however i just updated my software collection that runs on CE5 and CE6 netbooks. It includes some games, messengers, utilities etc etc. Just extract and copy to a SD/USB stick and run the programs from there, or copy the software you want to your device.

    Download here: http://www.filefactory.com/file/b109g61/n/winCE6soft.zip

    Scroll to bottom of page and click "download with file factory basic" to download.

     

    Hope this of some use!

    Saturday, November 6, 2010 6:43 PM
  • I have one of these too.  The bottom line is it was designed to be an "internet appliance" with very limited flexibility and performance.

    For the price, it is a very nice little box.  But it's not especially fast.  And it wasn't designed to be flexible like a larger/regular netbook/laptop is.

    I have run across a claim that someone loaded a linux distribution onto this box.

    I'm a little skeptical but the bottom line is they would have to "flash" the memory chip that holds the OS image with a new one to do this.  This is a very easy way to end up with a "brick" (eg. a box that doesn't do anything at all).

    It would be a lot easier to start over again with a higher end box/netbook/laptop for $250 than to fight with this one.

     

    Respectfully,

    Tom

     

     

     


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    Friday, November 26, 2010 6:37 AM
  • Apparently the setup to download doesn't work.  I can't get past the 2 word security challenge.  I would be perfectly happy to make it freely available on my files download site without a security challenge if I could get ahold of it.

    Tom

    Be well, do good work, keep in touch (c) The Writers Almanac
    Friday, November 26, 2010 6:46 AM
  • Depending on the processor in the netbook, you may be able to run linux or android from a bootable SD card without overwriting your Windows CE installation. See this link --> http://bento-linux.org/book/export/html/60 . I have an ARM WM8505 cpu and have booted the linux distro with x11 and Fluxbox. Kinda cool, and I'm sure if I took the time, I could install more apps, etc. But I actually like the Wince 6.0 better. I've got the Wince6soft.zip and many of them work (Doom has funky colors and is slow, but does run!). I'm looking for more Wince6 apps for ARM.

     

    -David

    Friday, December 17, 2010 3:06 AM