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  • User-1559810637 posted

    Hello all,

    I know that this is probably a stupid question and that the answer is probably no, but is there any way to retain Classic ASP Sessions\Session States when using a Web Garden?

     Cheers,

    Liam
     

    Friday, December 8, 2006 3:20 AM

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  • User-823196590 posted
    For my info - where is it documented that sessions don't work across the garden? Having trouble finding that ...
    Friday, December 8, 2006 8:23 AM
  • User989702501 posted
    IIS 6.0 Session State May Be Lost If You Use Web Gardens with ASP Applications
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=822171
    Saturday, December 9, 2006 10:50 PM
  • User-1559810637 posted

    Bernard,

    Do you know of anyway that the session states can be shared across the worker processes?

    Cheers,

    Liam
     

    Sunday, December 10, 2006 7:50 PM
  • User989702501 posted

    For asp.net - you can try state service, or sql server.
    For asp, you need third party session management, google for more info.

    Monday, December 11, 2006 12:08 AM
  • User-823196590 posted
    It's my understanding that web gardens should only be used for very unique circumstances.  Are you sure you need to use that feature?  Are you having problems without it?
    Monday, December 11, 2006 11:24 AM
  • User-1559810637 posted

    It would be beneficial to use it as we have a dedicated web application that is the only application running on that machine, allowing for better utilization of resources and also increased reliability.

     

    Tuesday, December 12, 2006 12:38 AM
  • Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:19 PM
  • User-823196590 posted
    Yes - I wanted to be sure that you are aware that web gardens are not the "silver bullet solution" - this is an excellant article that explains the pitfalls. So you're having contention issues then, as described in the article?
    Friday, December 15, 2006 7:51 AM
  • User989702501 posted

    I have not see many big web garden deployment for ASP session. Yet in the past, what I have deployed is 4 NLB host with 2GB ram each handling a busy portal site, with many db queries. At peak, it serves up to 8k concurrent users.

    If you really need asp out of session management, get a third solution for it. And make sure it clicks with web garden.

    Friday, December 15, 2006 8:52 AM
  • User-1559810637 posted

    Yeah, our current solution is 6 NLB hosts.

    We don't really need out of session management, and seen as we do not write the code behind the application we would probably not be able to use it anyway.

    Thanks for your input Bernard.
     

    Sunday, December 17, 2006 8:21 PM
  • User-1559810637 posted
    Yes. Unfortunately the application (webmail) blocks threads while conducting IMAP operations.
    Sunday, December 17, 2006 8:23 PM
  • User989702501 posted
    I'm not a dev guy, but in the past what I have come out with the dev lead is having dedicated services gateway for all db related requests, it is m-threaded with lot of logics, etc to prevent locking, etc. something like CLB, but in my case is self-developed, request go into the gateway router node then distributed to another 4 com+ nodes,  before reaching the data source end of sql cluster.
    Sunday, December 17, 2006 9:06 PM