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Bing Map tile Server - Direct Access / through x,y and zoom values - License Details needed RRS feed

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  • We want to use Bing tile server images as a top layer on top of various layers we create using the third party mapping application that’s integrated with our application, I had tested the Bing tile server images from the path http://ecn.t0.tiles.virtualearth.net/tiles/r023112321.png?g=392, And we do have the code that converts the x, y and zoom values to tile image name and it seems to be working good so far, but since ours is a enterprise application being used by 5000 or more engineers worldwide, we would like to know the proper licensing system from Microsoft to avoid any issues in using the tile server directly, I had gone through most of your documentations on Bing map services, but none of them give any example of using tile server directly with a license, and I read from this post http://blogs.msdn.com/b/virtualearth/archive/2008/04/29/tracking-virtual-earth-tile-usage.aspx, that passing token with the tile server URL is enough, but we would like to get official response or anything that strongly says that there is no other licensing or fees associated in using tile server, I had sent many emails and calls to your bing map support, but no response so far, we don't want to get into legal issues, so Please direct me to get a proper channel.

     

    And please note that, we couldn’t use your SOAP, AJAX, REST or web service since none of them seem to help me to get the tiles by name or by X,Y and zoom values.


    Dhinesh
    • Moved by Ricky_Brundritt Friday, March 9, 2012 5:27 PM (From:Bing Maps: Map Control and Web services Development)
    Monday, May 2, 2011 9:18 PM

Answers

  • (Before answering your question, I ought to point out that this is a developer forum - it is not a Microsoft official support channel. Therefore, I doubt you will get any more authoritative response to your legal questions than that which I already gave, and am about to give you. Furthermore, I'm not quite sure to whom you're addressing the references to "your forum", "your Bing Map support", "your documentation"... these things are no more mine than they are yours, or anybody else's on this forum.)

    The terms of use may not include the word "tiles" anywhere. However, if you read them carefully I would say the following line from section 2i seems pretty relevant:

    Restrictions on your use: We do have some restrictions on your use of the service. You may not:

    • integrate the Bing Maps Platform or any of its content with any other mapping platform;

    Seeing as your first post expressly stated that you wished to integrate Bing Maps tiles with a "third party mapping application", then I'd say that this is pretty clearly prohibited by the terms of use. This is totally unrelated to whether you're hitting the tile servers directly, or using one of the REST or SOAP APIs - the clause states you must not integrate any Bing Maps content with a third party mapping platform.

    The only exception to this rule, also stated in the Terms of Use, is if you have separately entered into a written agreement with Microsoft. For that, you have to contact the maplic@microsoft.com email address I gave you earlier or, seeing as you already have an enterprise agreement, contact your existing support contact.


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    • Marked as answer by k_dhinesh Tuesday, May 3, 2011 6:53 PM
    Tuesday, May 3, 2011 4:36 PM
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  • The Bing Maps Terms of Use are here:

    http://www.microsoft.com/maps/product/terms.html

    This includes the following line:

    "If you have any questions or would like to find out more about a Bing Maps Agreement, please contact maplic@microsoft.com for information."


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    Monday, May 2, 2011 9:53 PM
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  • Tanoshmi,

             I had contacted maplic@microsoft.com and they redirected me to contact https://support.discoverbing.com/default.aspx?, also we had been sending mails to Microsoft Account manager from January this year, if we ever found a valid answer, i wouldn't have posted my question here.

    And http://www.microsoft.com/maps/product/terms.html, doesn't say anything about tiles.

    lets leave the license issues, I just have a technical question, Is there a way to get the tiles through any of the SOAP, AJAX, REST or web service when we specify a tile Name or the X,Y and zoom values  ( I understand that most of your services internally uses the same approach to get the map)

    I believe you might have seen these posts below from your forum, which is exactly what I am asking for,

    http://www.bing.com/community/site_blogs/b/maps/archive/2008/04/29/tracking-virtual-earth-tile-usage.aspx   from Chris Pendleton (Lead Program Manager for Bing Maps Developer and B2B APIs for Microsoft) 

    http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vemapcontroldev/thread/aec05ed8-4221-4d22-80d2-464741daeff9        

    And this link shows the required answer from Microsoft support, but I am not sure why no one else has any idea about this

    http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en/vemapcontroldev/thread/27e164b2-0700-49d9-b111-1949e8596694

    So either I need to access the tiles directly by passing a token ID or Bing Map key with it for your tracking/legal purpose or I would like to know a way to use any of SOAP, AJAX, REST or web services to get the tiles by name or by x,y and zoom value.


     


    Dhinesh
    Tuesday, May 3, 2011 2:53 PM
  • (Before answering your question, I ought to point out that this is a developer forum - it is not a Microsoft official support channel. Therefore, I doubt you will get any more authoritative response to your legal questions than that which I already gave, and am about to give you. Furthermore, I'm not quite sure to whom you're addressing the references to "your forum", "your Bing Map support", "your documentation"... these things are no more mine than they are yours, or anybody else's on this forum.)

    The terms of use may not include the word "tiles" anywhere. However, if you read them carefully I would say the following line from section 2i seems pretty relevant:

    Restrictions on your use: We do have some restrictions on your use of the service. You may not:

    • integrate the Bing Maps Platform or any of its content with any other mapping platform;

    Seeing as your first post expressly stated that you wished to integrate Bing Maps tiles with a "third party mapping application", then I'd say that this is pretty clearly prohibited by the terms of use. This is totally unrelated to whether you're hitting the tile servers directly, or using one of the REST or SOAP APIs - the clause states you must not integrate any Bing Maps content with a third party mapping platform.

    The only exception to this rule, also stated in the Terms of Use, is if you have separately entered into a written agreement with Microsoft. For that, you have to contact the maplic@microsoft.com email address I gave you earlier or, seeing as you already have an enterprise agreement, contact your existing support contact.


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    • Marked as answer by k_dhinesh Tuesday, May 3, 2011 6:53 PM
    Tuesday, May 3, 2011 4:36 PM
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