After Changing DWT not all pages are updated

Question

I am using expression Studio 4 Web Professional as a 60 days trial version (German) on Windows 7 ultimate.

I am building a simple website with folders holding the html-pages of different parts of the site: 10 folders with a sub-DWT and 3 pages each, so it's 40 pages altogether that have to be updated when I change the master.dwt.

I produced the folders by copying them inside

The protocol tells me that only 20 pages were updated. This seems to be a limit as I performed various tests to resolve the problem. Part of the other pages were "skipped", the rest was returning a "skipped with a write/read error".

Does anybody know the reason for this? I don't think it's got anything to do with the trial version, does it?

Thanks in advance, wolli

Answer 1

It should not be anything to do with the Trial version. Nothing is disabled in that version.

Two thoughts.

1) Are you working in a defined site? Was the site created from 'Site - New' or have you just opened a folder on your hard disc?

2) Do you have the 'Site - Site Settings - Maintain the site using hidden metadata files' option selected?

 

 

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Answer 2

"I produced the folders by copying them inside"

What do you mean by this? Copying from what to where, and how?  write/read errors sound like permission problems.

Answer 3

I am building a simple website with folders holding the html-pages of different parts of the site: 10 folders with a sub-DWT and 3 pages each, so it's 40 pages altogether that have to be updated when I change the master.dwt.

A "simple website?" With ten nested DWTs?! Unless I missed the memo (possible, I suppose) nested DWTs are not well supported and not recommended in EW. Multiple DWTs, sure (although that kind of defeats the purpose of using a DWT), but nested, dependent DWTs are another matter.

What makes you think that structure is "simple," and what on earth requires ten DWTs? Oh, and those other questions, too—are you working in a defined Web site, metadata enabled, etc. Have you ever used DWTs before?

cheers,
scott

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Answer 4

Ian, thanks for your answer. Firstly, it is important to know it's nothing to do with the Trial version.

ad 1) Yes, I am working in a Site. I use the template "Organisation 4" which I change to meet my requirements.

ad 2) Yes, the option is selected AND GRAYED OUT - it says, I can't remove any metadata because it was a "Sub-Website". I don't know why this is so :-( but it seems to be the correct setting.

Wolli

Answer 5

Kathy, thanks for your question. I went to the "site view" in the main window (sorry, I am not sure about the English names, as I am using the German version), selected a folder (say: "Project1"), Edit - Copy, Edit - Paste and a new folder (Project1_Copy(1)) was created. The contained files were correctly linked to the master.dwt.

I cannot imagine permission problems, because at this point I work on my local machine and I have administrative rights. I have no difficulties editing the "error" files manually.

Thank you anyway, cheers, Wolli

Answer 6

Scott, thank you for your answer. Well, the DWTs are not nested 10 Times - I have two levels.

I am preparing the website for use by a customer of mine. He needs to maintain his website of theatre productions so he has a number of projects each of which require a small bunch of pages which are supposed to be accessible through the navigation menu.

So I built a master.dwt for the looks and the Main Menu and I inserted editable sections after each menu item. After that, I built 10 sub-dwt's each of wich use one of the editable sections plus the contents area.

I have not used Expression Web or DWTs before, but I am pretty sure that my setup is not too complicated and the updating should just work - I mean, it is not a difficult thing to do, is it? I would be happier if I could use a dynamic navigation menu like in a CMS but that does not seem to work here.

But if you're right - if the program does not support nested DWTs even in two levels - I would be quite dissappointed of the program :-( Maybe you've got another idea? Meanwhile, I am going to google for "nested DWTs" and see what I can find.

Regards, Wolli

Answer 7

Wolli,

I think there maybe a bit of a langugae problem here since you mentioned using the German version. If German is your native language you may want to post on the German language forum at http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/de-DE/expressionwebfr/threads

If you want to continue here, please post a link to one or more of the pages so we can see what it is you are talking about even if it is only at a temporary location.

Expresion Web has never supported nesting DWTs. The usual procedure when you need something nested is to use an include file for the content that varies but is used on more than one page. That include can either be design time or server side depending on what best fits the site needs. For example I will frequently use a server side include for menus on sites where pages are added frequently but a design time include when the include deals with individual sections of a site.

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Answer 8

Cheryl,

thank you very much indeed. If - as paladyn / Scott already said - nested DWTs are not suported this seems to be the reason for the problems. Your hint about include files sounds good and I will try to work on this.

Still, I am a bit disappointed that I don't get an error message when TRYING to nest the DWTs - that would have saved me (and all of you) a lot of time ;-)

Thanks again, cheers, Wolli