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  • I have shape that contains several shape data. I've added these shape data to Data graphics, and after this I manually drag the graphics (Text Callouts) to differents places all around the Visio-document. When I add or remove any Data graphics item, all the graphics (Text Callouts) moves to the default position of the shape. And I have to drag again all the graphics to place where I want them to be.

    Is there way to lock the Data graphics so the positions where I drag the Text Callouts wouldn't move to the default position?

    I've tried changing values to TRUE in ShapeSheet-Protection, but it only affects the shape itself, not its Data graphics.

    Saturday, March 12, 2011 2:45 PM

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  • Correct me MVP's if I'm wrong.  But I don't think you can do what you want because the graphic position is defined by the DataGraphic, not the Shape to which it's applied.

    How about this for a crude work-around?  You can map a linked data row to more than one Shape.  So you could add dummy Shapes, map those to the same data records, apply your DataGraphics, then place the Shapes where you them on the Page.  Then set the Transparent properties of the dummy Shapes to 100%.  The Shapes disappear leaving their DataGraphics visible.


    Steve Mack
    Saturday, March 12, 2011 4:30 PM
  • kinda like this

    http://visguy.com/vgforum/index.php?topic=1117.0

    the other method of course is to use the drawing explorer to get to the individual datagraphic shapes and then lock them down via the shapesheet (a little tedious, but should be doable)

    al

     


    If this answer solves your problem, please check Mark as Answered. If this answer helps, please click the Vote as Helpful button. Al Edlund Visio MVP
    Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:19 PM
  • Al,

    Thanks.  Really clever.  That's what makes you an MVP.

    Steve


    Steve Mack
    Sunday, March 13, 2011 1:31 AM
  • I tried to make the surrogate shapes, but I couldn't get it working. What is surrogate shape and how to create it? And I actually prefer not to use macros.

    The other method that MVP said won't work. When I lock (ShapeSheet:Protection:all TRUE) the individual datagraphic shapes (text callouts), they will move to default position when do any changes to data graphics.

    I guess it is easiest, but very tedious, for me to make dummy shapes and make individual data graphics of them.

    Sunday, March 13, 2011 12:34 PM
  • The example was meant to show a concept. In the production materials I ended up creating a custom table (since I almost always create the drawings via automation). Along with the supporting table I supply a custom stencil that has the shapes that I want to use as surrogates and the predefined datagraphics. An example of this is over here

    http://visrackcompattr.codeplex.com/documentation

    For some more information on applying data and Visio check out David Parker's book

    http://www.amazon.com/Visualizing-Information-Microsoft%C2%AE-Office-Visio%C2%AE/dp/007148261X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1300020692&sr=1-1

    al

     


    If this answer solves your problem, please check Mark as Answered. If this answer helps, please click the Vote as Helpful button. Al Edlund Visio MVP
    • Marked as answer by Sally Tang Monday, March 21, 2011 9:02 AM
    Sunday, March 13, 2011 12:51 PM
  • This still bugs me all time and giving me a hell of time using VISO 2013 .. it almost renders it unusable!!!

    every time you edit the data graphic, all the custom fine positioning, formatting are gone and everything s reset to its defaults ... what about a data graphic with 10 links (field/rows) ??? it is really useless if it can't withstand latest changes or a check box for like resistant position!

    I also, could not understand the answers ... is there any solution to this ?

    Thursday, January 15, 2015 7:44 PM