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Windows Developer Preview with developer tools English 32-bit (x86)?

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  • Please, answer my questions.

    Is there a Windows Developer Preview with developer tools English 32-bit (x86)?

    Can I download Microsoft Visual Studio 11 Express 32-bit (x86)?

    Can I download the Windows SDK for Metro style apps 32-bit (x86)?

     

     response to a question: 

    Currently, the developer tools are available only on the "Windows Developer Preview with developer tools English, 64-bit (x64)" image.  They are not available separately at this time.

    If you go to http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/default.aspx, you will see a new subscriber download named "Windows Developer Preview SDK/WDK (x86 and x64) - (English)", but this is just the SDK and WDK; it doesn't contain the previews of Visual Studio Express or Blend that are part of the developer tools image.  So, while these will install on the "Windows Developer Preview English, 32-bit (x86)" image they are not the same thing as the developers tools image.

    Sincerely,

    Dan




    • Moved by BillFillMicrosoft employee Wednesday, September 14, 2011 3:56 PM doesn't look like it belongs in General OS (From:Windows Developer Preview: General OS questions )
    • Edited by Vladimir Vasilenko Wednesday, September 14, 2011 5:32 PM
    Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:35 PM

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  • >>There are certain Windows Metro style requirements which are only part of that image. 
    Is it software requirements? Am I right?
    If so, you could release a patch or update for Windows 8 Developer Preview 32bit.
    Do you  make something like this to solve our problem?
    Thursday, September 15, 2011 1:51 AM

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  • I would also like to know where to download the tools.
    Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:41 PM
  • The Visual Studio itself is 32Bit, but Ms only released the 64Bit ISO because the VS uses a lot of virtual Memory. And with 32Bit Windoes the process is limited to 2GB VA space.

    Which hardware do you have? All modern PCs are 64Bit comaptible:

    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/taking-the-mystery-out-of-64-bit-windows


    "A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code"

    Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:46 PM
  • I have access to 64bit compatible pc, but most of the time I spend behind the old computer.
    You are right all modern PCs are 64bit compatible.
    For example, in schools and institutes in my town are not 64bit compatible pc.
    These computers have enough RAM (1-1.5 GB) to run and perform simple tasks in Visual Studio.

    Wednesday, September 14, 2011 3:14 PM
  • I would like to know if, and when, we will be able to get access to VS 11 for 32-bit Windows as well... I was running Visual Studio Professional on Windows 7 with 2.5GB of RAM (W8 w/2.5GB RAM too) without any issue.
    Wednesday, September 14, 2011 3:45 PM
  • I too would like to see a 32 bit developer preview with dev tools, so that I can try out the preview in a virtual machine.  I don't mind Visual Studio being sluggish; I accept it's not ideal.

    My scenario is that my main machine is two years old and 64 bit, but does not support 64 bit virtualization.  My backup machine is five years old and is 32 bit only; it's slower but still works fine and runs Visual Studio 2010 ok.

    I do not want to risk taking my main machine out of action, or my backup machine.  I cannot run 64 bit virtual machines, and new hardware is not in my budget right now.  Running the preview in a 32 bit virtual machine is my best option.

     

    Wednesday, September 14, 2011 4:08 PM
  • At BUILD the only platform for devloping Windows Metro style applications is the Windows Developer Preview with developer tools English, 64-bit (x64).  It can be found here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/apps/br229516/.  Visual Studio Express for Windows Developer Preview will not be available seperately. 

    MSDN subscribers will be able to download the full Visual Studio product and install it on 32 bit Windows Developer Preview however only the Windows Developer Preview with developer tools English, 64-bit (x64) supports the full Windwos Metro style experience.  Find MSDN subscriber downloads of Visual Studio 11 Developer Preview and other developer products here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/default.aspx

    Kraig Rury (MSFT)

    • Proposed as answer by Kraig S Rury Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:42 PM
    Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:41 PM
  • It would be nice if the VS2011 tools could be made available as a separate download for those of us who are unable to burn the oversized dvd image that has the tools on it.

     

    Thanks,


    Jeffrey S. Patton Assistant Director of IT School of Engineering Computing Services University of Kansas 1520 West 15th Street Lawrence, KS. 66045-7621 | http://patton-tech.com
    Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:58 PM
  • On Friday all users can download the VS11 Preview to install it on the 32Bit Windows 8 Developer Preview.

    Today in the BUILD keynote I had the opportunity to show some of the new functionality in Microsoft® Visual Studio® 11 Developer Preview and Microsoft® Team Foundation Server Preview.  MSDN subscribers can download the previews today as well as the new release of .NET Framework 4.5 Developer Preview; general availability is on Friday, September 16.

    http://blogs.msdn.com/b/jasonz/archive/2011/09/14/announcing-visual-studio-11-developer-preview.aspx


    "A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code"

    • Proposed as answer by ian.aldrighetti Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:15 PM
    Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:06 PM
  • Yes the Visual Studio 11 Developer Preview will be generally available Friday, however in order to create Windows Metro style applications you must install it on the Windows Developer Preview with developer tools English, 64-bit (x64).  There are certain Windows Metro style requirements which are only part of that image.  Installing it on other images will enable you to do desktop application development. 

    Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:04 PM
  • >>There are certain Windows Metro style requirements which are only part of that image. 
    Is it software requirements? Am I right?
    If so, you could release a patch or update for Windows 8 Developer Preview 32bit.
    Do you  make something like this to solve our problem?
    Thursday, September 15, 2011 1:51 AM
  • I'd have to second this request.

    There are many people using machines phyisically capable of running 64-bit Windows but are running 32-bit instead.  In many cases this is because the vendor doesn't provide 64-bit drivers for the hardware.  Many of these machines are in developer settings with bureaucratic IT organizations loathe to cater to developer needs, barely making the concession of allowing any VM software to be run on these desktops.

    Side comment: The lack of ability to run these Win8 ISOs on VirtualPC has knocked a number of developers I know completely out of the box as well.  They are not in a position to install VirtualBox or VMWare products on their over-managed work desktops.

    Second side comment: If Microsoft is serious about seeing developers help enhance their products (by using them as development platforms and targets) they need to address this entire issue of poor developer support inside larger organizations.  The situation has been poor for years and is getting worse.  We bring what pressure to bear that we can through internal politics, but an ally would be very welcome.  After all, Microsoft had a large role in over-empowering "the IT guys" in many organizations.  How about a "Customers, get your development house in order" roadshow targeting corporate officers?

    I'll note that our iOS and Android development teams face none of these obstructions.

    Back on topic, I realize that VS has grown to resource-hungry proportions, however to meet immediate needs we need a 32-bit OS solution.  Perhaps something could be done in terms of the Express Edition Preview products included in the Big Pack 64-bit ISO?  Even an extra ISO with just an installer for adding them to the existing Win8-32 ISO would work.

    Otherwise a lot of people will remain on the sidelines until much later in the game


    Saturday, September 24, 2011 3:43 PM
  • Can i install the 64 bit version of windows 8 with tools on my 32 bit(x86) machine ?
    Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:00 PM
  • Can i install the 64 bit version of windows 8 with tools on my 32 bit(x86) machine ?
    Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:00 PM
  • You now have VS 2012 RC with Windows 8 RC. For information on where to download and install, see information at http://kishore1021.wordpress.com/2012/07/10/getting-started-with-windows-8-release-preview-development-using-visual-studio-2012/

    Never be afraid to try something new.Remember, amateurs built the ark.Professionals built the Titani

    Monday, July 23, 2012 3:50 PM
  • If you are looking for latest windows 8 RC, Downloaded the Windows 8 Release Preview from http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/release-preview.

    (You can find ISO files at http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/iso.)

    Download the Visual Studio 2012 RC:

    http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/11/en-us/downloads#professional

    You see the steps to install at http://kishore1021.wordpress.com/2012/07/10/getting-started-with-windows-8-release-preview-development-using-visual-studio-2012/


    Never be afraid to try something new.Remember, amateurs built the ark.Professionals built the Titani

    Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:29 PM