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  • Has anyone made any app available yet?  I seem to recall that apps should be distributed through the Store, but how would I find them? Is it only through connecting a monitor to the device (RaspPi 2) and accessing a Store app with UI?  When I connect a monitor, I only see either a black screen, or a screen with a box containing an X in the middle (like the default icon in the basic app template).  Because of this I do everything headless.

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    Sunday, January 17, 2016 7:22 AM

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  • if you only see a black screen or an x in the middle looks like you have set your device to start an app during start

    anyway you would not see a gui or similiar you would only see a page with some information like device name ip address

    if you drive your device headless you dont need a "gui", if you dont drive your device headless you would have a windows universal app that should start by default and present you a "gui"

    a windows iot device does not have a store or access to a store, it is (at least currently) not the intention to have a iot device connected to microsoft store and that makes sense to me as you build devices, not apps

    Sunday, January 17, 2016 11:42 AM
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  • if you only see a black screen or an x in the middle looks like you have set your device to start an app during start

    anyway you would not see a gui or similiar you would only see a page with some information like device name ip address

    if you drive your device headless you dont need a "gui", if you dont drive your device headless you would have a windows universal app that should start by default and present you a "gui"

    a windows iot device does not have a store or access to a store, it is (at least currently) not the intention to have a iot device connected to microsoft store and that makes sense to me as you build devices, not apps

    Sunday, January 17, 2016 11:42 AM
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  • It's a stock image.  Absolutely nothing installed.  When I booted from the image it went black and never showed anything.  After an hour or two I did it again.  After a few times of that (with black or the white box with X) I decided to check the IOT Watcher tool just in case.  It was accessible, so I connected to the admin screen and it all looks good.  I don't understand how I can't do anything locally though.  The Pi2 works fine for Linux images.

    As for store apps, I thought I had read that would be a thing.  I know for the most case it doesn't make sense, but I could see weather station, thermostat, node.js server, etc. other projects being published to make it easy.  Maybe someday.


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    Tuesday, January 19, 2016 3:58 AM
  • which image have you installed?

    the installation process could take a "long" time, i would let him run until you can set your language...

    regarding "store",  what you really want is to see are projects including source code

    the right place is for example github or other source platforms

    microsofts iot examples are available on github

    edit:

    personally i would not want a store app on my device because a small image is better, less bugs, less updates and more security

    Tuesday, January 19, 2016 10:43 AM
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  • Hi Arian,

    There are versions of Windows 10 that support store applications but Windows IoT Core is a purpose driven environment not multi-purpose like a PC so the store model does not map to it in the same way.  To get the bigger picture, I recommend auditing some of Steve's IoT talks that are recorded on Channel 9 : https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Speakers/Steve-Teixeira

    Essentially, Windows IoT Core does not have a Shell like all other versions of Windows do. The Application that is running on the IoT Core Device is focused on just the things that the device needs, as cyberh0me explained, this keeps the software small and ensures the purpose of the device is met "personally i would not want a store app on my device because a small image is better, less bugs, less updates and more security".

     

    If you need a shell you should be looking at the other Windows 10 versions: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/WindowsForBusiness/windows-iot:

    Windows 10 IoT Editions; Enterprise, Mobile Enterprise & Core

    Sincerely,

    IoTGirl


    Tuesday, January 19, 2016 11:29 PM
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  • That's very good info.  I don't want a shell.  What about the update scenario though?  If there is no store integration (even at a private level) does app servicing fall 100% under the responsibility of the developer?  System updates, app updates, crash reports, etc?  Not that you would want anything to be automatic, but with the right hooks, you could instruct your single app to take a system update, or simply to update the app when it's available.

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    Tuesday, January 19, 2016 11:42 PM
  • Hi Arian,

    For your new question regarding IoT Update I recommend you take a look at this existing thread on the subject. https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/b8c06cc8-fce9-47bc-8f25-669be5826326/what-is-the-recommended-approach-to-update-the-uwp-app-on-an-iot-core-based-consumer-product?forum=WindowsIoT

    Sincerely,

    IoTGirl


    Wednesday, January 20, 2016 8:18 AM
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  • The image is the straight-from-Microsoft Raspberry Pi 2 IoT image.  I tried booting it with the display plugged in and this time it showed the Windows logo with the spinning circle.  After many hours, it still hadn't stopped spinning.  I'm beginning to think it could be my SD card.  It's a class 10, but I'm going to buy a UHS 1 card and see if that fixes it.

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    Wednesday, January 20, 2016 7:21 PM
  • Hi Arian,

    I assume you have reset / repowered it with the same result? It is true that some of the older slower SD cards don't boot well but first boot can take longer than subsequent boots.

    My SD card was not expensive, it is a Transcend Micro 16GB Premium 300x I purchased from Amazon well over 2 years ago and I have had no issues.  Does yours compare well to the card I am using?

    Sincerely,

    IoTGirl


    Wednesday, January 20, 2016 8:09 PM
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  • I've tried multiple times, including rebuilding the image several times.  Both of my cards are class 10 (10Mbps) but yours is USH 1 (at least 40 Mbps I think).  I ordered one like yours last night and I hope it helps.  It's definitely not a first boot issue at this point.  Either the Pi is having troubles or it's the memory card.  I'll know soon!

    Thanks for your support through this!


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    Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:37 PM
  • Hi Arian,

    Thanks for letting me know! I'll look forward to the details of your experience with the faster card.

    Sincerely,

    IoTGirl


    Wednesday, January 20, 2016 10:20 PM
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