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  • Question

  • What are the detailed (comprehensive) differences between Visual Studio 2005 Standard and Professional editions (esp. from the C++ perspective)?

    I have read many posts on this topic, but none are definitive or authoritative. For example,  http://msdn2.microsoft.com/hs24szh9.aspx lists coarse-grained tools and features, but does not detail what is meant here by a "Streamlined" vs. a "Full" user experience.

    Also,  pages like this mysteriously imply that features like QuickWatch are not supported on C++ Standard Edition (which I find hard to believe).

    Is there a comprehensive list somewhere so that I can choose wisely?

    Thanks much!

    Thursday, February 23, 2006 6:30 AM

Answers

  • There's no such document, it's only through trial and error that we found that massive chunks of the Platform SDK are also missing from Standard edition

    http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=184775&SiteID=1

    And "streamlined" interface is still a mystery to me - I'll tell you what, later today or tomorrow I'll install Standard edition on a spare machine and see what it actually means.

    Ted.

    Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:47 PM
  • This topic has been updated for Doc Refresh 2.  The new text will say "Simplified menu options and defaults".

    Thanks,
    Ayman Shoukry
    VC++ Team
    Thursday, March 16, 2006 1:04 AM
  • My understanding is that the differences should be only in the features that are not supported in one edition but supported in the other.

    For specific details, I don't believe we have such list currently documented externaly but I agree it should be.

    Could you log a documentation bug at http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/productfeedback/default.aspx. Also, include the QuickWatch as an example.

    Thanks,
    Ayman Shoukry
    VC++ Team
    Friday, March 17, 2006 1:55 PM

All replies

  • There's no such document, it's only through trial and error that we found that massive chunks of the Platform SDK are also missing from Standard edition

    http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=184775&SiteID=1

    And "streamlined" interface is still a mystery to me - I'll tell you what, later today or tomorrow I'll install Standard edition on a spare machine and see what it actually means.

    Ted.

    Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:47 PM
  • That's disturbing. I wish that a moderator would reply to your last question in the thread you referenced above.

    If parts of the SDK are missing, would installing the PSDK from the standard location help?

    http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/platformsdk/sdkupdate/

    I assume that the SDK that's included with VS2005 is simply the latest publicly-available SDK (Windows Server 2003 SP1 Platform SDK - April 2005 Edition)? Is that correct?

    I have VC++ Express installed on a different machine than my 2005 Pro Trial (there was no Standard Trial ) and it seems to have the same debugger features, so perhaps the table at the top of this page is incorrect. Hmmmmmm. I would love to see a comprehensive list of differences. How else can I choose which product to buy?

    Thanks,
    Dave
    Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:10 PM
  • I am just going to close the loop on this one. Sarah Brian from the VC++ Release team is following on the issue. She will be replying soon to the other thread at http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=184775&SiteID=1

    Thanks,
    Ayman Shoukry
    VC++ Team
    Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:53 PM
  • Thanks very much Ayman for following up, appreciated.  I'm still interested in the streamlined interface as it relates to C++ only,

    Ted.

    Friday, February 24, 2006 2:21 AM
  • No Problem!

    I will follow up on the "streamlined" and keep you updated!

    Thanks,
    Ayman Shoukry
    VC++ Team
    Friday, February 24, 2006 9:12 AM
  • Ayman,

    Any update on this issue?

    Thanks! Dave

    Monday, March 13, 2006 2:44 AM
  • This topic has been updated for Doc Refresh 2.  The new text will say "Simplified menu options and defaults".

    Thanks,
    Ayman Shoukry
    VC++ Team
    Thursday, March 16, 2006 1:04 AM
  • Ayman,

    So, regardless of what the text says, what's the actual difference? Is there a difference in functionality, or merely a difference in UI design?

    I'm still mystefied, for example, as to why this page seems to indicate that QuickWatch is not supported by the Standard or Express editions when it clearly is.

    I would love to see a comprehensive list of differences between the Standard and Professional editions' IDEs (if there is any difference).

    Does "Simplified menu options and defaults" mean that some features are blocked/missing? If so, which ones?

    Thanks much! Dave

    Friday, March 17, 2006 6:18 AM
  • My understanding is that the differences should be only in the features that are not supported in one edition but supported in the other.

    For specific details, I don't believe we have such list currently documented externaly but I agree it should be.

    Could you log a documentation bug at http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/productfeedback/default.aspx. Also, include the QuickWatch as an example.

    Thanks,
    Ayman Shoukry
    VC++ Team
    Friday, March 17, 2006 1:55 PM