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  • I was wondering if Microsoft is going to give a free final product licence to all the people who are sending some feedback. Like a thank you gift for all the hard work. That would be great and I realy like Windows Developer Preview and it is going to be an amazing final product. 
    Wednesday, February 8, 2012 3:56 AM

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  • I think Bobby Goldsboro said it best :)

    Dream on, little Broomstick Cowboy,
    Of rocket ships and Mars;
    Of sunny days,
    And Willie Mays,
    And chocolate candy bars.

    Dream on, little Broomstick Cowboy,
    Dream while you can;
    Of big green frogs,
    And puppy dogs,
    And castles in the sand.

    Oh and this is a good read too!


    February 3, 1976
    An Open Letter to Hobbyists

    By William Henry Gates III

    To me, the most critical thing in the hobby market right now is the lack of
    good software courses, books and software itself. Without good software and an
    owner who understands programming, a hobby computer is wasted. Will quality
    software be written for the hobby market?

    Almost a year ago, Paul Allen and myself, expecting the hobby market to
    expand, hired Monte Davidoff and developed Altair BASIC. Though the initial work
    took only two months, the three of us have spent most of the last year
    documenting, improving and adding features to BASIC. Now we have 4K, 8K,
    EXTENDED, ROM and DISK BASIC. The value of the computer time we have used
    exceeds $40,000.

    The feedback we have gotten from the hundreds of people who say they are using BASIC has all been positive.

    Two surprising things are apparent, however...

    1) Most of these "users" never bought BASIC (less than 10% of all Altair owners have bought BASIC), and

    2) The amount of royalties we have received from sales to hobbyists makes the time spent on Altair BASIC

    worth less than $2 an hour.

    Why is this? As the majority of hobbyists must be aware, most of you steal
    your software. Hardware must be paid for, but software is something to share.
    Who cares if the people who worked on it get paid?

    Is this fair? One thing you don't do by stealing software is get back at MITS
    for some problem you may have had. MITS doesn't make money selling software. The
    royalty paid to us, the manual, the tape and the overhead make it a break-even
    operation. One thing you do do is prevent good software from being written. Who
    can afford to do professional work for nothing? What hobbyist can put 3-man
    years into programming, finding all bugs, documenting his product and distribute
    for free? The fact is, no one besides us has invested a lot of money in hobby
    software. We have written 6800 BASIC, and are writing 8080 APL and 6800 APL, but
    there is very little incentive to make this software available to hobbyists.
    Most directly, the thing you do is theft.

    What about the guys who re-sell Altair BASIC, aren't they making money on
    hobby software? Yes, but those who have been reported to us may lose in the end.
    They are the ones who give hobbyists a bad name, and should be kicked out of any
    club meeting they show up at.

    I would appreciate letters from any one who wants to pay up, or has a
    suggestion or comment. Just write to me at 1180 Alvarado SE, #114, Albuquerque,
    New Mexico, 87108. Nothing would please me more than being able to hire ten
    programmers and deluge the hobby market with good software.


    But keep on the look out for pre-release specials. Maybe once again one can pre-order

    Metro Professional for $99.00. I thought that was a very nice offer for Win7 back in the day.

    A fellow 'hobbyist'


    • Edited by windunce Wednesday, February 8, 2012 4:51 AM
    Wednesday, February 8, 2012 4:37 AM
  • I was wondering if Microsoft is going to give a free final product licence to all the people who are sending some feedback.

    Nope. Using and testing the Developer Preview is voluntary.

    Wednesday, February 8, 2012 6:08 AM
  • By using DP (and the following beta) now, you have the advantage of knowing beforehand whether you will be buying W8.

    If W7 is anything to go by, it is likely there will be a pre-release offer price for the retail version. Buying this also has the benefit of not being bound by OEM restrictions.

    Wednesday, February 8, 2012 1:53 PM
  • When I beta tested win 7 I got a $49 offer to buy the retail win 7.

    Mike Ellaby

    Thursday, February 9, 2012 12:20 AM
  • nope, you get nothing for testing it.

    "A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code"

    Thursday, February 9, 2012 5:52 PM