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Signing and Schema issues w/ InfoPath & Access RRS feed

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  • Converted a (currently) paper inspection form to digital with infopath for use with a tablet, for digital data collection purposes via submission to Access. Currently we can fill out the Infopath form and the submit button submits the database & a XML copy to our sharepoint library. Thought we were 90% of the way there but now running into some serious issues, even though data submission works fine.

    First, the forms must be signed with either e-sigs or drawn on the form with tablet pen. E-sigs lock the form and prevent submission to the Access Database, and drawn ink picture sigs are stored as OLE and Infopath cannot submit OLE or large objects directly to Access. So neither type of signature is working on our form when we hit the submit button.

    So we thought about just printing the forms out from Sharepoint and signing them. However, we tried opening some few-day-old submitted forms (stored as .xml) from sharepoint and they will not open stating "Schema Validation Errors", a field from the template it expected was missing or something, I am not an expert. These are regulated documents and need to be robust so this type of unexpected issue is unacceptable.

    I am now considering submitting the data to Access and then exporting the filled form as a .pdf, but there is no Infopath rule to export that I see and this whole thing is getting hokey now.

    I just want to fill out a form, sign it with a tablet pen, and press one button that submits the data as an access record and stores a printable copy (pdf preferred). Disappointed that there seems to be no straightforward, out-of-the-box solution to do this




    Wednesday, October 19, 2016 7:32 PM

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  • Hi czcastermaster,

    >> E-sigs lock the form and prevent submission to the Access Database, and drawn ink picture sigs are stored as OLE and Infopath cannot submit OLE or large objects directly to Access. So neither type of signature is working on our form when we hit the submit button.

    How did you submit data from infopath form to Access database? I am not familiar with infopath, as far as I know, Ole Object is supported in Access database, could you share us more information about it could not submit to Access?

    For another way, could you save the signature as image, Attachment is supported in Access, I think you could also save image attachment to access.

    Best Regards,

    Edward


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    Thursday, October 20, 2016 9:38 AM
  • Infopath inherently does not support transferring OLE objects directly into a database, even if the DB supports OLE.

    In addition, when infopath imports the database structure & fields, it will not pull the data type property; i.e. in infopath an OLE type field in access will be recognized as a simple data type in infopath and cannot be changed. Thus attachments, pictures, ink sigs etc in infopath that require an object-data-type  field can not even be bound to the imported fields since they are all recognized in infopath as simple type despite whatever type they actually are in the DB.

    The am hoping someone here might know something about the nuances of e-sigs w/ respect to submitting data, or a clever way to have object-type fields in a form already linked to access so we can bind ink sigs to those fields and enable them to work.


    Thursday, October 20, 2016 3:58 PM
  • Hi czcastermaster,

    I am not familiar with InfoPath, it seems it is a limit in Infopath.

    >> Currently we can fill out the Infopath form and the submit button submits the database & a XML copy to our sharepoint library

    Could you submit digital to SharePoint library? If you could, I suggest you try to link table from sharepoint list.

    #Import from or link data to a SharePoint list

    https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Import-from-or-link-data-to-a-SharePoint-list-65bf7b03-74bf-445c-959a-24b7a401ddee

    Best Regards,

    Edward


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    Monday, October 24, 2016 8:22 AM