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Why Doesn't Windows 8 Just Look Like THIS?

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  • Because Microsoft doesn't care what users want or like?

    Server come with Metro Start Screen, old start menu is kicked from the code.

    http://winunleaked.tk/2012/01/windows-server-code-named-8-beta/


    "A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code"

    Friday, January 13, 2012 6:56 PM
  • Personally, I think that there is too much Metro-style design in Paul Thurrott's image. Also, the black Start icon needs to look like the icon from Windows Vista/7, not the Windows 8 version.

    I once suggested to Microsoft that they allow "Aero-style desktop apps" to be created with WinRT. Although Metro-style apps should be capable of running in a window, there needs to be a native version of WinRT designed for the desktop environment, not just Metro-style apps.


    I strongly dislike the idea of people talking about how the Metro user experience is "powerful" and "next generation." There is no reason why WinRT can't run in the desktop. The idea that it somehow degrades Windows to not have the Metro user interface on the desktop makes no sense to me, since using Metro with the mouse isn't as good as using the desktop with a mouse. Windows does need a new application model, but not a new user interface.

    Update:
    I have a picture of what I think Windows 8 should look like, posted here:

    http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsdeveloperpreviewgeneral/thread/12345671-f635-4b29-a1d5-1fa2a8ca0e99

    Friday, January 13, 2012 8:40 PM
  • I strongly dislike the idea of people talking about how the Metro user experience is "powerful" and "next generation." There is no reason why WinRT can't run in the desktop. The idea that it somehow degrades Windows to not have the Metro user interface on the desktop makes no sense to me, since using Metro with the mouse isn't as good as using the desktop with a mouse. Windows does need a new application model, but not a new user interface.


    I believe WinRT can actually run in the desktop, though. From testing builds 7850, 7955 and 7989, which predate the DP by months and even a year, the PDF reader seemed to be coded using WinRT and it ran on the desktop. As a matter of fact, when attempting to use it in build 7989, it automatically closed itself but the title bar did say WinRT in a longer title that I no longer remember but that I can look into again. Do remember, though, that the PDF reader is not present in the DP but let's hope that they didn't ditch it completely. Same goes for the revamped Disk Cleanup utility (diskclean.exe) from build 7850, with the old one (cleanmgr.exe) still available as well, much like the new Task Manager (TM.exe) and the old one (taskmgr.exe), they're both available. :)
    Wednesday, January 25, 2012 11:54 PM
  • WinRT can run desktop apps? Hopefully, Microsoft will listen to my advice and decide that the concept of a Metro-style application on a desktop PC just doesn't make sense.

    Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:32 PM
  • only with hacks you can use WinRT with desktop apps:

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4165054/WinRTLoaderDemo.zip


    "A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code"

    Friday, January 27, 2012 8:16 PM
  • Are you saying that the Windows team actually has the ability to allow Aero-style desktop apps to be created using WinRT but chooses not to?

    I won't look at that file you linked to; I don't know what it is, where it came from, or what it does, and the part about "hacks" doesn't make me want to open it.

    Friday, January 27, 2012 8:24 PM
  • the file is clean, I got it from here:

    http://jeremiahmorrill.com/2011/09/26/windows-8-dont-worry-nothing-has-changed-for-traditional-desktop-development-and-thats-the-problem/

    But the coding makes no fun. It feels like Win32API coding in C.


    "A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code"

    Friday, January 27, 2012 8:29 PM
  • Are you saying that the Windows team actually has the ability to allow Aero-style desktop apps to be created using WinRT but chooses not to?
    I won't look at that file you linked to; I don't know what it is, where it came from, or what it does, and the part about "hacks" doesn't make me want to open it.
     You can always use VirusTotal to check if a certain file or website is malicious. 

    only with hacks you can use WinRT with desktop apps:

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4165054/WinRTLoaderDemo.zip

    the file is clean, I got it from here:

    http://jeremiahmorrill.com/2011/09/26/windows-8-dont-worry-nothing-has-changed-for-traditional-desktop-development-and-thats-the-problem/

    But the coding makes no fun. It feels like Win32API coding in C.

    Don't forget that what he did is not officially supported, at least for now, so it might as well be a hack for all we know.
    • Edited by SatoMew Friday, January 27, 2012 10:11 PM
    Friday, January 27, 2012 10:07 PM
  • Something is wrong with your HTML coding. Your reply contains <blockquote> and </blockquote> tags that aren't being read properly.
    Friday, January 27, 2012 10:10 PM
  • Something is wrong with your HTML coding. Your reply contains <blockquote> and </blockquote> tags that aren't being read properly.
    I know, I'm still getting used to the way the MSDN blogs use their WYSIWYG editors. xP
    Friday, January 27, 2012 10:13 PM

  • Don't forget that what he did is not officially supported, at least for now, so it might as well be a hack for all we know.
    that's why I wrote 'hacks'.

    "A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code"

    Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:24 PM