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  • We are looking to upgrade to Office 2016. . The problem I have seen so far is when I do the upgrade I can no longer access the forms with InfoPath, the workflows with Designer or projects using MS Project. I had to roll back in order to support the site. Do we need to upgrade to SharePoint 2016. We have not wanted to upgrade to the new SharePoint because we would like to stay on premise and have heard there are still a lot of bugs with the on premise version of SharePoint 2016.  Since there will be no new releases of InfoPath and Designer if we move to SharePoint 2016 what should we do? Are any of you using SharePoint 2016 and what do you think?

    • Edited by RonJohnMSU Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:20 PM
    Wednesday, August 10, 2016 7:07 PM

Answers

  • There aren't any major issues with SharePoint 2016, I'm not sure where you heard that... Wouldn't necessarily call it accurate.

    You can continue using InfoPath Designer 2013 and SharePoint Designer 2013 with SharePoint Server 2013/2016, regardless if you have Office 2016 installed or not on the client.


    Trevor Seward

    This post is my own opinion and does not necessarily reflect the opinion or view of Microsoft, its employees, or other MVPs.

    Wednesday, August 10, 2016 7:12 PM
  • Are you using the cloud version or the On Premise version?

    • Marked as answer by RonJohnMSU Thursday, August 11, 2016 2:34 PM
    • Edited by RonJohnMSU Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:21 PM
    Wednesday, August 10, 2016 7:14 PM
  • We had heard there were issues with broken customizations, workflow issues, discontinuing of excel web services part, discontinuing of InfoPath and Designer, a move toward Office 365 and cloud based which is an issue with our company since we are a financial institution and have requirements that force us to use on premise solutions. While these are not actually bugs...they are concerns that we have to address. I can honestly say that I installed Office 2016 on my PC which broke my ability to use MS Project, Designer and InfoPath unless I did something wrong during the install? I also reinstalled the software and had the same issue. As soon as I uninstalled Office 2016 and put Office 2013 back on my PC everything worked fine.

    • Marked as answer by RonJohnMSU Thursday, August 11, 2016 2:34 PM
    • Edited by RonJohnMSU Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:21 PM
    Wednesday, August 10, 2016 8:04 PM
  • Customizations will always vary from version to version of SharePoint, so it just requires testing. Workflows are generally a resolved issue (there were some initial problems with 2010 workflows that sent email). ECS has been removed and is now part of Office Online Server instead, so the one-to-one equivalence is still there (and better!). InfoPath/SharePoint Designer are 'discontinued' but are still used to do the same tasks they did in SharePoint 2013 -- and will be supported until at least 2023.

    I have a mix of both Office 2016 (64-bit) and InfoPath Designer/SharePoint Designer 2013 (64-bit) working just fine. Install Office 2016 first, followed by the 2013 products.


    Trevor Seward

    This post is my own opinion and does not necessarily reflect the opinion or view of Microsoft, its employees, or other MVPs.

    Wednesday, August 10, 2016 8:08 PM
  • But, is this the same as using On Premise. You mention that you use the Online Server which we will not be using. Is there a difference because I have heard there is one and all of the research seems to center around SharePoint 2016 Online and Office 365. I do not see much in regards to SharePoint 2016 On Premise and Office 2016 On Premise. I have heard great things about SharePoint 2016 Online Server but, it is irrelevant to what we have here and if there is a push to move to the cloud then SharePoint really will not be considered for our future platform.

    • Marked as answer by RonJohnMSU Thursday, August 11, 2016 2:34 PM
    • Edited by RonJohnMSU Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:21 PM
    Wednesday, August 10, 2016 8:35 PM
  • Maybe I just need to install Office 2016 first followed by Office 2013...I will try that suggestion.

    • Marked as answer by RonJohnMSU Thursday, August 11, 2016 2:34 PM
    • Edited by RonJohnMSU Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:21 PM
    Wednesday, August 10, 2016 8:37 PM
  • OOS is an onprem product that replaced OWA 2013.

    Trevor Seward

    This post is my own opinion and does not necessarily reflect the opinion or view of Microsoft, its employees, or other MVPs.

    • Marked as answer by RonJohnMSU Thursday, August 11, 2016 2:33 PM
    Wednesday, August 10, 2016 9:35 PM
  • The InfoPath 2013 application remains the last version to be released and will work with SharePoint Server 2016. 
    Update on InfoPath and SharePoint Forms:
    https://blogs.office.com/2014/01/31/update-on-infopath-and-sharepoint-forms/

    Microsoft MVP Talks SharePoint 2016, Deprecated InfoPath and Getting Help:
    https://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/07/16/sharepoint-2016-help.aspx

    Hope this helps!

    A comprehensive solution to migrate to-and-from SharePoint and Office 365 along with File Servers, Exchange/Office 365 Public Folders, Google Drive and OneDrive Business to SharePoint Online/On-premise migration.

    • Marked as answer by RonJohnMSU Thursday, August 11, 2016 2:33 PM
    Thursday, August 11, 2016 5:09 AM
  • This answers all of my questions. Thanks for your help!

    • Marked as answer by RonJohnMSU Thursday, August 11, 2016 2:33 PM
    • Edited by RonJohnMSU Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:21 PM
    Thursday, August 11, 2016 2:33 PM

All replies

  • There aren't any major issues with SharePoint 2016, I'm not sure where you heard that... Wouldn't necessarily call it accurate.

    You can continue using InfoPath Designer 2013 and SharePoint Designer 2013 with SharePoint Server 2013/2016, regardless if you have Office 2016 installed or not on the client.


    Trevor Seward

    This post is my own opinion and does not necessarily reflect the opinion or view of Microsoft, its employees, or other MVPs.

    Wednesday, August 10, 2016 7:12 PM
  • Are you using the cloud version or the On Premise version?

    • Marked as answer by RonJohnMSU Thursday, August 11, 2016 2:34 PM
    • Edited by RonJohnMSU Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:21 PM
    Wednesday, August 10, 2016 7:14 PM
  • We had heard there were issues with broken customizations, workflow issues, discontinuing of excel web services part, discontinuing of InfoPath and Designer, a move toward Office 365 and cloud based which is an issue with our company since we are a financial institution and have requirements that force us to use on premise solutions. While these are not actually bugs...they are concerns that we have to address. I can honestly say that I installed Office 2016 on my PC which broke my ability to use MS Project, Designer and InfoPath unless I did something wrong during the install? I also reinstalled the software and had the same issue. As soon as I uninstalled Office 2016 and put Office 2013 back on my PC everything worked fine.

    • Marked as answer by RonJohnMSU Thursday, August 11, 2016 2:34 PM
    • Edited by RonJohnMSU Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:21 PM
    Wednesday, August 10, 2016 8:04 PM
  • Customizations will always vary from version to version of SharePoint, so it just requires testing. Workflows are generally a resolved issue (there were some initial problems with 2010 workflows that sent email). ECS has been removed and is now part of Office Online Server instead, so the one-to-one equivalence is still there (and better!). InfoPath/SharePoint Designer are 'discontinued' but are still used to do the same tasks they did in SharePoint 2013 -- and will be supported until at least 2023.

    I have a mix of both Office 2016 (64-bit) and InfoPath Designer/SharePoint Designer 2013 (64-bit) working just fine. Install Office 2016 first, followed by the 2013 products.


    Trevor Seward

    This post is my own opinion and does not necessarily reflect the opinion or view of Microsoft, its employees, or other MVPs.

    Wednesday, August 10, 2016 8:08 PM
  • But, is this the same as using On Premise. You mention that you use the Online Server which we will not be using. Is there a difference because I have heard there is one and all of the research seems to center around SharePoint 2016 Online and Office 365. I do not see much in regards to SharePoint 2016 On Premise and Office 2016 On Premise. I have heard great things about SharePoint 2016 Online Server but, it is irrelevant to what we have here and if there is a push to move to the cloud then SharePoint really will not be considered for our future platform.

    • Marked as answer by RonJohnMSU Thursday, August 11, 2016 2:34 PM
    • Edited by RonJohnMSU Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:21 PM
    Wednesday, August 10, 2016 8:35 PM
  • Maybe I just need to install Office 2016 first followed by Office 2013...I will try that suggestion.

    • Marked as answer by RonJohnMSU Thursday, August 11, 2016 2:34 PM
    • Edited by RonJohnMSU Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:21 PM
    Wednesday, August 10, 2016 8:37 PM
  • OOS is an onprem product that replaced OWA 2013.

    Trevor Seward

    This post is my own opinion and does not necessarily reflect the opinion or view of Microsoft, its employees, or other MVPs.

    • Marked as answer by RonJohnMSU Thursday, August 11, 2016 2:33 PM
    Wednesday, August 10, 2016 9:35 PM
  • The InfoPath 2013 application remains the last version to be released and will work with SharePoint Server 2016. 
    Update on InfoPath and SharePoint Forms:
    https://blogs.office.com/2014/01/31/update-on-infopath-and-sharepoint-forms/

    Microsoft MVP Talks SharePoint 2016, Deprecated InfoPath and Getting Help:
    https://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/07/16/sharepoint-2016-help.aspx

    Hope this helps!

    A comprehensive solution to migrate to-and-from SharePoint and Office 365 along with File Servers, Exchange/Office 365 Public Folders, Google Drive and OneDrive Business to SharePoint Online/On-premise migration.

    • Marked as answer by RonJohnMSU Thursday, August 11, 2016 2:33 PM
    Thursday, August 11, 2016 5:09 AM
  • This answers all of my questions. Thanks for your help!

    • Marked as answer by RonJohnMSU Thursday, August 11, 2016 2:33 PM
    • Edited by RonJohnMSU Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:21 PM
    Thursday, August 11, 2016 2:33 PM