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  • Question

  • By: Richard

    Hi everybody,

    I'm moving my web page design from Frontpage 2003 to Expression Web. In the
    past I've had complaints from customers accessing my web site saying they
    had various problems. I did not keep track of their issues but I'm fairly
    certain they were all using Macs and therefore not using IE.

    I want to make sure as I redevelop my web site I address browser
    compatibilty issues so all my customers can access my web site w/o issues.

    Do I need to do anything in particular when running the Accessibility,
    Compatibility & CSS Reports to accomplish this?

    I notice when I run these reports against my current web site
    implementation, I get many errors. Would I be wiser to start over in EWD
    rather than porting my current design?

    Thanks,
    Richard

    Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:34 PM
    Moderator

Answers

  • By: Cheryl D Wise


    I rather doubt they were all using Macs since on my site 28% of all visitors
    are using Firefox and 2% are using Safari (until very recently Mac only) yet
    only 3% are using Mac OS X while earlier versions of Apple operating systems
    don't total up to .1%.

    Only 64% of my site visitors are using IE in any form. IE 7 renders quite
    differently in some areas than IE 6 and below.

    You should be testing locally in IE 6, IE 7, Firefox and Opera at minimum.
    Add Safari for Windows (in the same virtual pc you use for whichever version
    of IE you don't have installed on you primary system). You can get Virtual
    PC for free and even a free virtual disk with Windows XP and either IE 6 or
    IE 7 installed from Microsoft. I have blog posts on Safari for Windows and
    using a virtual pc for testing at
    http://blog.by-expression.com/?s=virtual+pc

    Whether you start over or not you will need to clean up some of the
    deprecated code if you want to reuse any of your existing content see
    http://by-expression.com/quick-bits/migration.aspx for the short version of
    how to clean up your web pages.

    --
    Cheryl D Wise
    MS MVP FrontPage
    http://by-expression.com
    Author: Foundations of Microsoft Expression Web: The Basics and Beyond


    "Richard" <Richard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:AB7A045D-945E-4503-A63A-80AD52F3CFA3@microsoft.com...
    > Hi everybody,
    >
    > I'm moving my web page design from Frontpage 2003 to Expression Web. In
    > the
    > past I've had complaints from customers accessing my web site saying they
    > had various problems. I did not keep track of their issues but I'm fairly
    > certain they were all using Macs and therefore not using IE.
    >
    > I want to make sure as I redevelop my web site I address browser
    > compatibilty issues so all my customers can access my web site w/o issues.
    >
    > Do I need to do anything in particular when running the Accessibility,
    > Compatibility & CSS Reports to accomplish this?
    >
    > I notice when I run these reports against my current web site
    > implementation, I get many errors. Would I be wiser to start over in EWD
    > rather than porting my current design?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Richard
    Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:48 PM
    Moderator

All replies

  • By: Cheryl D Wise


    I rather doubt they were all using Macs since on my site 28% of all visitors
    are using Firefox and 2% are using Safari (until very recently Mac only) yet
    only 3% are using Mac OS X while earlier versions of Apple operating systems
    don't total up to .1%.

    Only 64% of my site visitors are using IE in any form. IE 7 renders quite
    differently in some areas than IE 6 and below.

    You should be testing locally in IE 6, IE 7, Firefox and Opera at minimum.
    Add Safari for Windows (in the same virtual pc you use for whichever version
    of IE you don't have installed on you primary system). You can get Virtual
    PC for free and even a free virtual disk with Windows XP and either IE 6 or
    IE 7 installed from Microsoft. I have blog posts on Safari for Windows and
    using a virtual pc for testing at
    http://blog.by-expression.com/?s=virtual+pc

    Whether you start over or not you will need to clean up some of the
    deprecated code if you want to reuse any of your existing content see
    http://by-expression.com/quick-bits/migration.aspx for the short version of
    how to clean up your web pages.

    --
    Cheryl D Wise
    MS MVP FrontPage
    http://by-expression.com
    Author: Foundations of Microsoft Expression Web: The Basics and Beyond


    "Richard" <Richard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:AB7A045D-945E-4503-A63A-80AD52F3CFA3@microsoft.com...
    > Hi everybody,
    >
    > I'm moving my web page design from Frontpage 2003 to Expression Web. In
    > the
    > past I've had complaints from customers accessing my web site saying they
    > had various problems. I did not keep track of their issues but I'm fairly
    > certain they were all using Macs and therefore not using IE.
    >
    > I want to make sure as I redevelop my web site I address browser
    > compatibilty issues so all my customers can access my web site w/o issues.
    >
    > Do I need to do anything in particular when running the Accessibility,
    > Compatibility & CSS Reports to accomplish this?
    >
    > I notice when I run these reports against my current web site
    > implementation, I get many errors. Would I be wiser to start over in EWD
    > rather than porting my current design?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Richard
    Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:48 PM
    Moderator
  • By: Murray


    The most common reasons sites created with FP caused problems for visitors
    are -

    1. Hover buttons
    2. Word Art

    Thankfully, XWeb offers neither of those as options.

    Anyhow, the more you know about HTML and CSS, the less you will get yourself
    into trouble with compatability issues. Your HTML authoring system cannot
    prevent you from using non-best-practice methods, or incompatable markup.
    So, if this is a concern for you, I'd advise you to just hunker down and put
    some HTML and CSS under your belt, so to speak! 8)

    --
    Murray
    --------------
    MVP FrontPage


    "Richard" <Richard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:AB7A045D-945E-4503-A63A-80AD52F3CFA3@microsoft.com...
    > Hi everybody,
    >
    > I'm moving my web page design from Frontpage 2003 to Expression Web. In
    > the
    > past I've had complaints from customers accessing my web site saying they
    > had various problems. I did not keep track of their issues but I'm fairly
    > certain they were all using Macs and therefore not using IE.
    >
    > I want to make sure as I redevelop my web site I address browser
    > compatibilty issues so all my customers can access my web site w/o issues.
    >
    > Do I need to do anything in particular when running the Accessibility,
    > Compatibility & CSS Reports to accomplish this?
    >
    > I notice when I run these reports against my current web site
    > implementation, I get many errors. Would I be wiser to start over in EWD
    > rather than porting my current design?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Richard
    Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:49 PM
    Moderator