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  • Apologies if this has been covered; please point me to a link/sticky topic if it has... (I found nothing under "Rotation".)

    Having imported photos from many different cameras, I occasionally encounter the rotation situation where the original is not rotated, but the thumbnail is (or vice-versa).  I need to get all the photos in "Rotation-sync." Can someone summarize the various rotation commands and options?  (Which does a lossless rotate of both original and thumb, which rotates thumb only, and which recompresses?)   I know there is an "Action/JPEG rotate" item, and arrow buttons on the user interface, as well as several "View" menu items...   How can I tell what the "Real" orientation of the original image is?  (I'm using a Mac now, but PC info would be helpful too.)
       Much obliged...
    Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:26 PM

Answers

  • Could we have a little more information? Are you using the beta version or release? V1 or V2? What file types are you having trouble with? Would you be willing to share some of them?

    We did have some rotation problems with RAW files pre-release on Windows only because we hadn't nailed the WIC interface code yet. So in the release version we are using the SDK importers and plan to fix that as soon as we can.

    I haven't seen any problems other than that, though, but am most happy to investigate.

    Regards,
    Anita Oakley
    Microsoft Expression Media Support Team
    Friday, June 27, 2008 8:27 PM
    Moderator

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  • Could we have a little more information? Are you using the beta version or release? V1 or V2? What file types are you having trouble with? Would you be willing to share some of them?

    We did have some rotation problems with RAW files pre-release on Windows only because we hadn't nailed the WIC interface code yet. So in the release version we are using the SDK importers and plan to fix that as soon as we can.

    I haven't seen any problems other than that, though, but am most happy to investigate.

    Regards,
    Anita Oakley
    Microsoft Expression Media Support Team
    Friday, June 27, 2008 8:27 PM
    Moderator
  • I am having rotation problems with DNG files. I have the Ardfry DNG Codec installed (not sure how to tell which version - I downloaded it on 6/20). I am using EM2 on Windows Vista Ultimate. I haven't changed any of the defaults for generating thumbnails or previews yet. It is a clean install of EM. I do not have Quicktime installed nor do I want to install it - too many problems..

    For some reason portrait oriented DNGs are displayed as landscape. The weird thing is Windows Explorer shows them correctly as portrait and the properties show the rotate 270 flag set correctly. The Media view (previews?) have this problem too. Is EM just missing the rotation flag?

    Apart from another small problem of loosing -1 ratings (Adobe Bridge assigns -1 to Rejects) when Syncing Annotations back to files this version of EM seems very robust.

    Patrick.
    Monday, June 30, 2008 11:14 PM
  • Hi Patrick,

    I was able to reproduce the problem you described with DNG and EM2. We definitely have trouble with RAW rotation when you are using codecs in Expression Media 2. CR2, NEF, and some other RAW formats have already been fixed for SP1.

    You can set a registry key to exclude WIC when using Expression Media, which should work around the problem for you. Or you can uninstall the codec entirely, but that would cause problems seeing the files in Windows Explorer.

    To set WICExclude:

    1. Go to Start --> Run and type in regedit on XP or type regedit in the search box on Vista

    2. Navigate to HKey_Current_User\Software\Microsoft\Expression\Media\1.0

    3. On the Edit menu, click New --> String value setting the name at WICExclude

    4. Double-click on the string value entry and set the string to  
               DNG,NEF,CR2
    (Add any other extensions that you want to exclude from WIC specifically)

    5. Click OK

    I've called this to the developers' attention. They had already fixed a similar problem with the rotation when the codecs were not installed, but didn't have a record of issues when the DNG codec is installed.

    Thanks,
    Anita Oakley
    Microsoft Expression Media Support
    Tuesday, July 1, 2008 8:22 PM
    Moderator
  • Hi Anita

    I tried your suggestions. I am using EM2 and the effect is that the application stops improting DNGs altogether.

    Help

    Patrick.
    Friday, September 19, 2008 8:46 PM