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  • my computer specs

    asus m5a78l-mlx plus

    amd fx 6100

    pny 8gb 1333 ram

    radeon hd 6970

    320 wd caviar sata-3g

    sony 8x dvdrw external slim

    this is my selection

    do not use a template

    .net framework 2.0

    access control user interface

    active directory providers

    application user experience

    audio and video foundation

    audio and video user interface

    cleartype tuner

    com  distributed transaction coordinator (dtc)

    device foundation

    diagnostics platform

    directplay

    directwrite support

    directx diagnostics

    english language pack

    file and folder synchonization

    homegroup

    html display engine

    metro style application foundation

    multimedia foundation

    network time service

    opengl

    power management

    remote assistances

    set windows shell as shell

    shell accessories

    volume shadow copy service

    windows desktop background (wallpapers)

    windows installer

    windows media player 12

    windows media player network sharing service

    windows search

    windows shell

    windows shell content

    windows shell foundation

    windows shell sound themes

    windows shell themes

    xps support

    resolve dependencies

    -the external cdrom drivers does not install

    -no sound hdmi

    -ati control center does not launch

    -i can launch and play crysis wars but i get no sound

    -dont have acces to device management

    -no xbox 360 controller support

    -no safe remove usb devices

    i just want to install a minimum metro shell for offline gaming. compatible with pc games for windows. any suggestion for components that i need?

    Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:32 AM

Answers

  • Hi betaiso,<o:p></o:p>

    This is great feedback as it gives us insight into the functionality that is most important to you. We're doing quite a bit of work on resolving the correct modules to support functionality for the next preview release and want to get that to you as soon as we can but it is still a little way off.<o:p></o:p>

    In the meantime all feedback about what functionality is most important to you and why really helps in prioritising the work we still have.<o:p></o:p>

    Thanks


    Dave Massy, Program Manager

    Wednesday, May 2, 2012 3:59 PM
    Answerer

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  • Hi betaiso, that's a nice system you have there.

    Each game would have different dependencies on windows, so the runtime requirements to support all games is a challenging task. An embedded device is typically a fixed function device, so in the case of arcade gaming machines, they may host one or very few games and that is all. This makes it easier to develop a single runtime to support the games because the developer of the device would have a limited scope of game dependencies to deal with.

    If the goal is to support any game, then you'd either need to add most of the feature modules, or you may also be better off using full Windows Client because then you do not need to worry about the dependencies.

    Good luck.

    Andy


    - Embedded team blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/embedded

    Monday, March 19, 2012 7:06 PM
  • the goal was to make a system like windows xp home with directx 11 with minimum services.

    i have used a program called nlite to minimize xp to 100mb iso. with 5 services running

    i have also used a program called vlite to minimize vista basic to 500mb iso.

    with only these services

    windows audio endpoint builder
    windows audio
    group policy client
    multimedia class scheduler
    windows install
    shell hardware detection
    windows modules installer
    virtual disk
    windows management instrumentation

    i cant install directx 11 unless i also check windows update but these are offline systems.

    i can run crysis and directx accelerated games with these settings.

    windows embedded can host like a server? like streaming video?

    would i be better off just with the consumer preview. it just seem like less resource would provide more speed in the case of nlite xp.

    Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:43 AM
  • OK, i see now. Are you using the toolkit as a hobbyist and not an OEM device maker? If so, I think you will have a better experience installing the Windows 8 consumer preview so you can focus on the games and the integration work for those games on the new OS. While you are correct the embedded toolkit provides you the ability to create a runtime with fewer services to help the system performance, the learning curve and componentization effort required to understand the games dependencies may not be the best use of your time :-)

    Good luck.

    Andy


    - Embedded team blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/embedded

    Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:33 PM
  • i am using the the toolkit as a hobbyist.

    for windows embedded standard  7 this works for ati control center and directx games

    .net framework 2.0

    .net framework 2.0 client profile

    .net framework 3.0 client profile

    .net framework 3.5 client profile

    application user experience

    audio and video engines and media foundation

    bitmap fonts

    com ole application support

    com+ application support

    common diagnostic tools

    core file system

    device framework

    device user experience

    directx and windows device experience

    driver frameworks

    english (us) language pack

    graphics platform

    help and support engine

    internet explorer 8 browser

    internet explorer 8 engine and display

    internet explorer 8 foundation

    microsoft management console (mmc)

    power management

    search indexing

    shell controls and ui support functions

    shell foundation

    standard windows usb stack

    system control panel

    system management administrative tools

    truetype fonts

    western fonts

    win32 application runtimes and libraries

    windows boot environment

    windows data access components

    windows embedded standard startup screens

    windows explorer shell

    windows installer

    the i press the resolve dependencies

    these are the bare minimum for the ati control center. if i dont install the control center and just install ati drivers then i can remove everthing in the list and just install:

    the reason why i attempted to install w8 ctp was because it worked for wes7. i tried to use the same components but some things changed. these same components will work for me, if you know the names for these components for windows embedded standard 8. so i would just like to choose this list of components but need the correct names. the estimated os footprint stays at 0 so i dont know what dependencies are being resolved. i would just use xp but the new amd fx has compatibility issues with x86.executables. if you can provide the list above in windows embedded standard 8 form that would be great but if you cant then this will be the last contact about this question.

    Tuesday, March 20, 2012 5:23 PM
  • hi, i would like a templete such as the windows embedded standard 7 "thin client templet". the windows 8 thin client does not install the same type of components as standard 7. i am missing cdrom drivers "only the hard drive shows". i am also missing iso mount.

    so thes are samples of templets i would like

    metro interface templet

    dot net 2,3.3.5 templet

    directx templet

    internet explorer templet

    windows media player templet

    hdmi audio templet, i get no audio or audio interface (for ati 6970 gpu) needs dot net 3.5 for ati control panel, but just checking donet components does not work.

    pci express templet, i cant install gpu drivers

    windows embedded 8 does not resolve the components, i am getting 0 hard drive space used.

    i have a amd fx 6100 so the earlier windows system does not support that cpu.

    i am using the window shell custom module by Dave Massy - MS Microsoft (MSFT)

    if you have any templets samples that would be great.

    Tuesday, May 1, 2012 10:16 PM
  • Hi betaiso,<o:p></o:p>

    This is great feedback as it gives us insight into the functionality that is most important to you. We're doing quite a bit of work on resolving the correct modules to support functionality for the next preview release and want to get that to you as soon as we can but it is still a little way off.<o:p></o:p>

    In the meantime all feedback about what functionality is most important to you and why really helps in prioritising the work we still have.<o:p></o:p>

    Thanks


    Dave Massy, Program Manager

    Wednesday, May 2, 2012 3:59 PM
    Answerer