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OSLO and VSTS 2010 RRS feed

  • Question

  • Hi

    There are modeling project and tools in Visual Studio 2010 and there is Oslo modeling platform.
    Do they overlap in functionality and can they talk to each other to collaborate?
    I believe workflows can be better modelled in OSLO and Activity diagrams in VSTS 2010.
    But at some point Architect may wish to see how business process is translated into service model and workflows.

    Regards, Aarti
    Monday, March 16, 2009 8:29 AM

Answers

  • Sorry for thye delay in responding. Keith Short on the Oslo team and I have posted blog entries on the relationship between Oslo and DSL Tools in Visual Studio. See http://blogs.msdn.com/stuart_kent/archive/2008/11/07/dsl-tools-and-oslo.aspx and http://blogs.msdn.com/keith_short/archive/2008/11/06/oslo-and-the-dsl-toolkit.aspx.

    When you mention 'workflow' above, I presume you mean windows workflow. This is not part of Oslo, though some future release of Oslo might include models for windows workflow described in M and stored in the Oslo repository. Windows workflow is a runtime, which includes a declarative and graphical langauge as part of its programming model. UML Activity diagrams are not tied to a runtime so can be used in many more contexts, but it takes a lot more work to derive something executable from them.

    We're working hard to make the UML designers extensibile, so it whoudl be possible to write extensions which transform UML activity diagrams into windows workflow models and vice-versa, however we're not planning ot provide anything in the box to do directly at this at this stage.

    Hope that helps.
    Stuart Kent - MSFT
    Monday, April 6, 2009 10:04 PM

All replies

  • Hi Aarti,

    I forwarded this on to the VSTS Team Architect group, so a response should appear soon.

    Thanks!
    Esther Fan | User Education | Visual Studio Team Architect
    Tuesday, March 17, 2009 3:14 PM
  • Sorry for thye delay in responding. Keith Short on the Oslo team and I have posted blog entries on the relationship between Oslo and DSL Tools in Visual Studio. See http://blogs.msdn.com/stuart_kent/archive/2008/11/07/dsl-tools-and-oslo.aspx and http://blogs.msdn.com/keith_short/archive/2008/11/06/oslo-and-the-dsl-toolkit.aspx.

    When you mention 'workflow' above, I presume you mean windows workflow. This is not part of Oslo, though some future release of Oslo might include models for windows workflow described in M and stored in the Oslo repository. Windows workflow is a runtime, which includes a declarative and graphical langauge as part of its programming model. UML Activity diagrams are not tied to a runtime so can be used in many more contexts, but it takes a lot more work to derive something executable from them.

    We're working hard to make the UML designers extensibile, so it whoudl be possible to write extensions which transform UML activity diagrams into windows workflow models and vice-versa, however we're not planning ot provide anything in the box to do directly at this at this stage.

    Hope that helps.
    Stuart Kent - MSFT
    Monday, April 6, 2009 10:04 PM