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New developer preview anytime soon ?

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  • Hi,

    is a new windows 8 developer preview scheduled anytime soon ?

    I'm going to hire people to work to port my app to windows 8, and wish to know if it safe to do now, or should I wait next dev preview ?

    Please advice 

    Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:50 AM

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  • Hi Brakkar,

    a Windows8 Beta/ Consumer Preview is expected by the end of Feb, it could be 29th Feb., as reported here:
    http://blogs.msdn.com/b/microsoft_press/archive/2012/02/08/quick-news-the-windows-8-consumer-preview-will-be-available-february-29th.aspx


    Irfan


    • Edited by Irfanfare Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:32 PM comma missing
    • Proposed as answer by Andre.Ziegler Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:02 PM
    Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:30 PM
  • Hi thanks for answer,

    But will this also include a developper preview or are they the same thing ?

    Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:43 PM
  • Its definitely going to be an improvement on Windows Developer Preview, and independent of it. WDP is set to expire in March.

    Irfan

    • Proposed as answer by Horizon_Net Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:30 PM
    • Marked as answer by Brakkar Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:53 PM
    • Unmarked as answer by Brakkar Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:45 PM
    Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:11 PM
  • The OP's point is being completely missed.

    The current W8 or Developer Preview has the tools to program Metro apps. The DP expires in March but what about the associated tools, do they also expire.

    The beta W8 is a consumer preview and presumably will not have tools to program Metro apps.

    If the tools on their own do not expire then which is the best way to continue to program Metro apps. Can the DP be upgraded to the beta and leave the tools intact or do they need to be reinstalled separately.

    BTW I have no personal interest in this.

    Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:06 PM
  • Hi drh,

    its obvious that the Metro apps will continue to be developed and updated for years to come. Yet I have no specific knowledge how the tools are to be made available, except through a separate download. But I've no written word on that.


    Irfan

    Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:23 PM
  • This is exactly my question: when will new developper TOOLS be available, since current developper version with tools expire shortly, and may not be up to date with latest developments in the consumer branch.
    Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
  • For an exact answer to this Qs, you may please ask it at the forum meant for Tools for Metro style apps.

    Irfan

    Besides waiting for a more informed reply on this forum.




    • Edited by Irfanfare Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:31 AM correction
    Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:30 AM
  • There is an even better solution.

    The development tools that shipped with the Win8DP are the Visual Studio 11 Express Preview (with the emphasis on "Express").

    Reportedly, the Conumer Preview (beta) version will come out on or about Feb 29th.  Since this version is targeted to mainstream consumers, IT pros, etc, it probably won't have the development tools installed.

    No worry.  Head on over to http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=27543 to download and install the FULL Visual Studio 11 Ultimate Preview which will allow developers to create Metro style apps for Windows 8.

    For more details on Visual Studio 11 features, checkout http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/hh127353.

    Monday, February 20, 2012 6:58 AM
  • There is an even better solution.

    The development tools that shipped with the Win8DP are the Visual Studio 11 Express Preview (with the emphasis on "Express").

    Reportedly, the Conumer Preview (beta) version will come out on or about Feb 29th.  Since this version is targeted to mainstream consumers, IT pros, etc, it probably won't have the development tools installed.

    No worry.  Head on over to http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=27543 to download and install the FULL Visual Studio 11 Ultimate Preview which will allow developers to create Metro style apps for Windows 8.

    For more details on Visual Studio 11 features, checkout http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/hh127353.


    Yes, but that's the 'old' version of Visual Studio 11.  I assume that they'll have an updated version for Win8 CP but I haven't heard anything about this.  Why is Microsoft so secretive?  Are they purposely trying to drive away developers? 
    Monday, February 20, 2012 1:45 PM
  • Hi I-DotNET,

    It's difficult to assume DarienHawk67's suggested Full Visual Studio 11 Ultimate Preview, a Preview, as an old version ! That would be a contradiction in terms.


    Irfan


    • Edited by Irfanfare Monday, February 20, 2012 2:15 PM to correct
    Monday, February 20, 2012 2:14 PM
  • Hi I-DotNET,

    It's difficult to assume DarienHawk67's suggested Full Visual Studio 11 Ultimate Preview, a Preview, as an old version ! That would be a contradiction in terms.


    Irfan



    It's almost 6 months out of date.   There isn't even a designer for HTML5/Metro apps.
    Monday, February 20, 2012 2:29 PM
  • Sure looks like VS11 Ultimate allows you to use any supported language to create Metro style applications.

    I believe what you may be referring to is Expression Blend 5 Preview--that is only (currently) available with the current Developer's Preview.  I would assume that MSFT will release a freely downloadable Expression Blend 5 Preview suite that is targeted to the Consumer Preview user base.

    Monday, February 20, 2012 9:00 PM
  • I meant the visual designer for creating UIs.
    Monday, February 20, 2012 9:15 PM
  • Yes, but that's the 'old' version of Visual Studio 11.  I assume that they'll have an updated version for Win8 CP but I haven't heard anything about this. 

    OK, it's official.  A new version (beta) of Visual Studio 11 will be released on Feb 29th:

    http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-provides-sneak-peek-of-next-visual-studio-beta/11903?tag=mantle_skin;content

    http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2012/feb12/02-23VisualStudioBetaPreview.mspx

    Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:29 PM