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  • Hi Everyone. I have some questions about using Azure ADDS to replace on-premise server.

    • My company have 6 sites and connected to Domain Controller by VPN in main office. My manager want to using Azure ADDS services to replace DC for make sure high availability. Is it possible ? and what is pros and cons?

    • I already read and research about it. But i'm still have some concerns :

                What cost i need to pay for a month :

    -Azure Active Directory Domain Services ~$109.50/month/set

    -VPN Gateway type Basic for 6 sites is ~$26.28/month or $26.28/month for only 1 site.

    -Is that all costs i have to pay forusing a month?Anythingelse?

    Migration: - Can i migrate current users to continue log in and work without lost user profile.

    How can i manage computers in my domain ? And can i still using Unifi Radius with Azure ADDS?

    Sorry for my English.

    Thursday, May 14, 2020 1:18 AM

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  • @Thien Lan, Thank you for reaching out and I apologize for the delay in our response here. In case you are planning to move your on-prem environment to Azure cloud, the best recommended way would be:

    1. Create a VM on Azure and configure this VM as a Domain Controller.
    2. Create either a VPN (Site-To-Site) connection or ExpressRoute connection between Azure and your on-prem datacenter, so that the VM on Azure configured as DC can speak to your on-prem DCs and replicate.
    3. Once this setup is done and once the DC on Azure is up-to-date with the on-prem environment, you can remove the on-prem DCs and create more DCs on Azure VMs and distribute it according to your sites. 
    4. Once the DCs are setup, you can get the on-prem servers or workstations get joined to these DCs by making them available for the Site-To-Site VPN or the Express Route using which they would be able to speak to the DCs on Azure.

    Regarding the steps mentioned above, you can refer to the following article for more info: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/architecture/reference-architectures/identity/adds-extend-domain

    This is the recommended way, as for Azure ADDS, we do not recommend joining on-prem workstations to is. Only VMs hosted on Azure are recommended for domain join to Azure AD DS. Also for Azure AD DS, you would first need to sync all your users and other objects like groups, devices etc to Azure AD and from Azure AD, Azure ADDS would sync those objects.

    Regarding the pricing, Azure AD DS, you can find the details here and calculate it accordingly.

    For Azure AD DS: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-in/pricing/details/active-directory-ds/

    For VNET Gateways, there needs to be only one VNET Gateway deployed for all 6 sites, as traffic from all 6 sites would converge to one VNET Gateway and then internally that Gateway would connect to a specific VNET that would be connecting to the DC hosted on Azure VM or the Azure AD DS.

    Hence VPN Gateway cost would be approx $26.28/month

    More details can be found here: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-in/pricing/details/vpn-gateway/

    Note: If you are using single forest in Azure AD DS and using a Standard SKU, the your per month pricing would be somewhere around $109.50 /month/set for 2 DCs provided that are spread across two availability zones.


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    Thursday, June 4, 2020 7:24 AM
  • Thanks you so much for you kindly respon.

    Now i'm not understand how i can calculator the cost monthly if i use Azure VM for Domain Controller and sharing file with NTFS permission . Could you help me to explain ?

    - First, i would like to create a VM on Azure as a Domain Controller and using this VM to set up File Sharing like on-prem server. Is it possible ? Which cost i have to pay monthly :

    1) Azure VM B4MS ~ $110 with 1 year reserved

    2) Premium SSD P40 2048GB ~ $260

    3) VPN Gateways VPNGw1 ~ $140. How can i calculator "outbound Inter-VNET data transfers" ? Now our file server approximately 1.3TB. and our users use documents in file server daily.

     If users open a file with 4MB size, is it 4MB outbound data calculated ?

    4) Do i have to pay extra cost for bandwidth of Outbound data transfer ? Or it is included in VPN Gateways .

    - Second, is there any latency to open the file in Azure VM, it is base on internet speed or VPN Gateways Bandwidth ?

    - Third, if i want to backup data file in Azure VM can i use Azure Backup and how much cost i need to pay if our file server is 1.3TB 

    @ SouravMishra-MSFT

    Thanks you so much for your time.

    Tuesday, June 9, 2020 10:12 AM
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    Many people ask why AD doesn’t support more protocols, such as SAML and RADIUS. We won’t speculate on their reasoning, but we do believe that a multi-protocol approach is the future of IAM.

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    Active Directory Terminology
    What are Active Directory objects?
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    Tuesday, June 9, 2020 3:23 PM