Is Superview Still Maintained?

Question

I have read about IE8 in SuperView and issues with IE9 but these are old posts.  Did Microsoft drop the product?  If not, does it have support for IE10?  The conceprt for the tool is great but I don't want to waste my time if it is no longer being supported and improved.  Hard to recommend that a client spend money on a tool that is being sunset. 

Answer 1

Read the Forum FAQs and Guidelines - Start Here. We are not Microsoft, and we have absolutely no idea what MS has planned for this product or any others. We are users of EW who come here to help other users, and cannot speak to Microsoft's plans.

cheers,
scott

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Answer 2

I am perfectly aware you are not Microsoft and can not speak for them HOWEVER as you stated "We are users of EW".  I would expect some here as a "We are users of EW" would know if suppost has been dropped.  If you don't you aren't really very professional at your job.  I certainly know the support status of all 3rd party products I use.

I would also expect that someone here has used Superview and and answer whether IE9 is now correctly supported.  I would also expect with the release of Windows 8 this month that "users of EW" would have some idea if support for IE10 is in the product. 

Also in my experience many MS employees and MVPs and Rangers 'luker' thin these forums and are in a position to answer this type of question of the record.

Finally I see nothing in your posting guidelnes indicating this question is out of line.  It is not a technical support question, I was requesting general information on the usability and viablity of the product.

Answer 3

Finally I see nothing in your posting guidelines indicating this question is out of line.  It is not a technical support question, I was requesting general information on the usability and viability of the product.

It's fine that you're asking others here whether, in their experience, if they have any issues with Super Preview and IE10; they just may not be in a position to offer an answer. 

I would still have to agree with Scott's response that your question is more about future development and features of the product.

The easiest way to see if EW4/SP works with IE10 is to get the EW4 trial.  The trial is roughly 60 days, plenty of time to evaluate it.

Not many MS Employees frequent this forum - only one or two regulars, very occasionally, but you might be in luck and get a response from one of them.

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Answer 4

SuperView doesn't exist, as far as I know.  I assume you mean SuperPreview.

And, no, this is not a forum where you would get MS product announcements unles they were already public, and if you meant "off the record", absolutely not.  Anyone in a position to know would not be allowed to say anything here until an official MS announcement.

If you were asking about the current status of SuperPreview, users who use it could answer.  Future status: Nope.  And even current status, you'd have to be a lot more specific about what exactly you wanted checked about IE9 support.  (What wasn't working?  Frankly, I just Preview in IE9, not use SuperPreview for that.)  As for IE10 - no it's not there in the remote version, which is all I can check.  Local?  I wouldn't know - I don't have a machine that would run IE10.  But for local you wouldn't need SuperPreiew, just Preview in the real browser.

Answer 5

MS does add or update browsers in their cloud browsers but it doesn't include beta browsers which means IE 10. If you have IE 10 installed locally you should be able to use SuperPreview with it but I haven't installed EW's SuperPreveiw on the only machine I currently have IE 10 running on. (I'm running into a fair bit of problems with web applications that run in the browser with it so I wouldn't rush to install it on a primary system, it is on my rtm Win 8 tablet I use for beta testing).

Not having issues with SuperPreveiw, either the free IE only or EW remote preview version I can't say what may or may not have been fixed. Your "some people have reported problems" is too vague for any meaningful answer.

I would expect that IE 10 will be added to remote preview at some point after it is officially released.

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Answer 6

  I would expect some here as a "We are users of EW" would know if suppost has been dropped.  If you don't you aren't really very professional at your job.

You poor, witless little twit. As a professional developer, I test for IE7, IE8, IE9 using the actual installed browser, and IE6 using the actual installed browser, in a virtual machine I maintain just for that purpose. Like other professionals, and apparently unlike a wannabe like you, I also have installed Firefox, Safari, Chrome, and Opera, for testing in the actual installed browser for those products.

You see, something that you seem to be unaware of, which professionals keep in mind, is that SuperPreview is static. Using SuperPreview, you cannot test CSS :hover effects, nor client-side javascript interactivity, nor server-side data-driven features. Basically, you can test nothing but static appearance in SP. I find it so useless for professional purposes that I don't use it. Therefore, I have no reason to either know or care about whether it will support IE10 or not, as I have no intention of using it. I will either run IE10 in a virtual machine, or, if MS does as they did with IE9, and includes compatibility modes for testing back compatibility, I'll install it and test in the actual installed browser. Capisc'?

Also in my experience many MS employees and MVPs and Rangers 'luker' thin these forums and are in a position to answer this type of question of the record.

In your experience? Your vast experience here, that seems to go back to... oh, yeah, this post, eight hours ago. Well, let me tell you, jocko, if you had actually hung around here long enough to get any actual experience here, you would have learned that very few MS employees "luker thin" here (I presume that your minimal intellect couldn't quite come up with "lurk"). In fact, for over a year now, there has been only one MS employee who actually posts here, rarely, named Jim Cheshire. And he would be the first to tell you that MS does not announce future plans or features.

As for "MVPs and Rangers," (What, pray tell, is a Ranger? Another figment of your fertile imagination?), MVPs are not MS employees, but simply honorees for the contributions they make to the community. They have no more of such knowledge than the average user. Even if we imagine that they did, like anyone else who might actually have any such knowledge, they would be constrained by one or more non-disclosure agreements from saying so. And how, in your bizarre view of reality, does making a public statement in a popular forum equate to "off the record?" Sure, I'll bet nobody would ever notice that "off the record" post from someone under an NDA. Ri-i-i-ight...

I was requesting general information on the usability and viablity of the product.

No, you were not. You were asking a specific question, concerning a browser of which, AFAIK, the only released versions, the so-called "Platform Previews," have only run on the equally unreleased Windows 8 (and now Windows Server 2012) since November of last year! At such time as the operating system and browser in question enter general availability, those of us here who are professional developers will begin to concern ourselves with the gradually growing share represented by IE10. Until then, we know nothing about it, and there is no point in worrying about it. I would guess that MS will provide a cloud based version for SP for the many thousands of developers who will not install Windows 8 immediately, presuming that it continues to run only on Win 8. But no one here knows for sure, and anyone who could know, couldn't say.

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Answer 7

I'm puzzled by the statement "Hard to recommend that a client spend money on a tool that is being sunset."

Your client can't buy SuperPreview. You buy Expression Web; SuperPreview is one very, very minor feature of it. I haven't used it in months. I preview live in IE 8 and IE 9, Chrome 22, FF 14, Opera 12, and Safari 5. I use SP once in a blue moon if I think that there might be an alignment problem. But I mostly need a functioning interactive display, not a static one. I have most often used SP only for checking old sites that I inherit from a client for updating, not ones I create myself.

If you follow solid, modern site design and layout rules, the differences from one browser to the next are minor. I haven't needed it to troubleshoot anything in ages, and I certainly don't think it's a make-or-break feature of EW. The only alternative to EW is Dreamweaver for 5 to 8 times the price, and it doesn't support ASP.NET, and has a much steeper learning curve (I use both, as do at least 4 other regulars here). Are you going to recommend that to the client? Fine. Be our guest. We don't care about your empty threat.

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Answer 8

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Answer 9

Then you are misreading most of them.