Answered Access Denied and strange item level permission behavior

  • Wednesday, April 04, 2012 7:37 AM
     
     

    Hello,

    I have got a big problem: basically I had no problem with the permission settings in sharepoint...all of my site collections are accessible with READ permissions. Document libraries have got unique permissions => there are active directory groups defined for READ permission. The item level permission for items is set for READ permission, but only for the document owner/creater (READ)...THIS WORKED ALL PERFECT

    NOW if a create a new document library with unique permissons (again an AD Group for READ permission) the document library is inaccessible for members of this AD Group (Access denied when trying to go directly into the lib and the library is not visible in the all content listing of the site)

    AND there is another library where I wanted to copy some items and set the item level permission manually => just these items are not visible for the users.

    HOPE THAT SOMEBODY CAN HELP ME OUT! Thank you in advance.

    BR, juvi

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  • Wednesday, April 04, 2012 7:55 AM
     
     

    As per my understanding, you need to provide explicit access to document library. Providing access to items in a document library will not provide access to document library.

    Also, SharePoint works with WYSIWYG rule. If a user don't have access to any item. User will not be able to see the item unless user has rights to see all.  


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  • Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:18 AM
     
     

    Hi,

    Can you create a SharePoint group, put those AD members in that group and try to grant permissions on this new SharePoint group?

  • Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:39 AM
     
     
    Hi, if I assign the AD user directly to the document library it works ... if I try to assign the AD group to the document library (the AD user is member of that group) it does not work...
  • Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:41 AM
     
     

    I know. I have set explicit access to the document library:

    Site Collection => Read permission for AD group 'Site-Visitors-Read' with the following member: "Domain Users"

    Document Library => Read permisson for the AD Group 'Doc-Visitors-Read' with the following member: "domain\sp-test"

    Item => Read permission for "domain\sp-test"

  • Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:57 AM
     
     

    I would take the approach already mentioned by babylonsr,

    Create the granularity you need with SharePoint groups including roles and permissions, don't add anyone or anything into these groups except your AD security groups.


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  • Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:08 AM
     
     

    Thank you for your reply...tried this now...still not working => get an Access denied error when trying to open the document library and the doc library is not listed in the all content overview

    BR,

    juvi

  • Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:24 AM
     
     

    OK, so to clarify you have the following;

    • Site collection - access to "AD_Domain_Users"
    • A library within a site with read access to "SharePoint_Group" whose member is "AD_Group" whose only member is "domain\sp_test"
    • An item within the libary with read access to "SharePoint_Group" whose only member is "AD_group"

    And you get an access denied when trying to access the library or item as the user "domain\sp_test", Is that correct?


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  • Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:43 AM
     
     
    Yes that is true. Tried now the "Check permissions" button and entered my "domain\sp_test" user => the result was none although the user is in the AD_group. The other library is in a site collection one level deeper in the forest (there it works and just shows me the AD_Group which member is the test user)
  • Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:06 AM
     
     
    Just wanted to check, the AD group you have setup is infact a security group and not a distribution group?

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  • Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:08 AM
     
     
    It is group type "security"...
  • Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:50 AM
     
     

    Something very strange going on, can you confirm that the AD groups are not "nested" within other AD groups and if possible have been created as a "Global" group?


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  • Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:57 AM
     
     
    yes really strange I have really no ideas => the AD groups are not nested and it is a global security group. But the test user has also no access if I create a sharepoint group for him with read permissions to the document library. If I assign the ad test user directly to the doc library it works...
  • Wednesday, April 04, 2012 11:06 AM
     
     
    I now created another ad group...suddenly this group is working now!? can the old group be corrupt? I have not so much experience with AD. . .
  • Wednesday, April 04, 2012 11:26 AM
     
     
    It's unlikely it's corrupted but I have seen forum posts where people have removed the groups and started again to remove any doubt.  You got the end result which is the main thing.

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  • Wednesday, April 04, 2012 12:14 PM
     
     
    Thank you very much for your assistance! BR juvi
  • Friday, April 13, 2012 12:16 PM
     
     

    Hey,

    I have found out something interest: the read permission on the items are working, but not on items, where the workflow is currently with status "in progress" ?? any ideas?

    BR, juvi

  • Friday, April 13, 2012 12:23 PM
     
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    That could depend on what the workflow actually does.  You might be better to ask a fresh question with more information about the issue Juvi.


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    • Marked As Answer by juvi123 Friday, April 13, 2012 4:36 PM
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