Monday, January 30, 2012 6:47 AMJust asking...
Monday, January 30, 2012 1:48 PMMicrosoft has not announced a release date.
- Proposed As Answer by Brian HilstromMicrosoft Employee Friday, February 03, 2012 7:12 PM
Friday, February 03, 2012 6:57 PMIt would be nice if we could get an estimated year quarter, especially with what’s going on with Silverlight.
Brian K. Williams
Saturday, February 04, 2012 5:10 PM
> Microsoft has not announced a release date.
First off any MSFT who helps in the forums is a good thing and to that Brian I do appreciate your being here. And this is directed at Microsoft.
But when my boss asks me about Silverlight and should they be considering staying with Silverlight; I have a hard time convincing them that Microsoft is behind Silverlight when the flagship tool suite Expression has not been updated to even match the current version two months out!
Either put in a service release for Blend 4 which handles Silverlight 5 or release Blend 5 (or a 4.5) which handles Silverlight only and the next version 6 will handle the Win 8 realm of new tools/tooling.
As much as I am a supporter of MS products, the lack of direction of blend and Silverlight 5 is disconcerting when the consumers have to use the development tool's beta version which is almost three months prior to the release of the product it supports.
William Wegerson (www.OmegaCoder.Com)
- Edited by OmegaManMVP Saturday, February 04, 2012 5:12 PM
Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:54 AM
Unfortunately (in my case), the use of prerelease software is not permitted (so I can't use the preview version). So, Silverlight 5 can't be used at all (and the whole Microsoft technology stack has become suspect).
I don't think that Microsoft realizes that this whole Silverlight issue is affecting the adoption of ALL their development tools and platforms. Excellent products like ASP.NET MVC, which are pushed as the HTML5/CSS3 alternative to Silverlight are a no go simply because of Microsoft's track record for abandoning technologies.
Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:15 PMI am a teacher trying to get my school into the MS world and I agree with their "record for abandoning tehcnologies" leaves a really bad taste in people's mouth. Things like Popfly, MS Agent Technology and now SL just doesn't sit well. Also I need to have a ball park of when Blend HTML5 is coming out as budgeting is well in advance and I can't just run out and buy things... Some push toward Adobe Edge because of these problems. I guess when you're as big as MS you can just do what you want and not care about the people who have been using your products. Oh well...
Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:52 PM
... ten months later... is there any change? Is the Preview going anywhere? Microsoft wants me to build Windows 'apps', but I build business software; there is no "sideload" solution that fits me (I know, I checked with my MSDN "evangelist"). Plus. these 'apps' are not for most business applications anyway. It took me forever to realize that I actually have to download this very old 'preview' - that will probably never be released - to do what I need to do
In my minds eye I see all of the Microsoft product people as sincere but blind rats, scurrying and bumping into each other, without any direction but some flute music played by Mr. Ballmer, who dreams about being king of consumer products, but has forgotten the developers who build systems that actually do useful work. I know this sounds harsh (particularly since I am a guy who really has always been a big Microsoft supporter) but where is the road map for the millions of applications that still drive the worlds business?
If it were not for LightSwitch I would be so out of here (Thank you Beth Massi et al)
But where is Bill? Where is Bill?
Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:57 PMModerator
This page details the current versions available:
Visual studio also fully supports Silverlight 5 if there are issues with using software labeled Preview. The design surface in VS2012 is based on the same technology/codebase as Blend.
I wish I had more information for you, but I can't comment on any future plans.
Tuesday, December 18, 2012 8:55 PM
Tuesday, December 18, 2012 11:06 PM
Thanks Chuck, that link is much appreciated.
For anyone reading this, let me summarize that link:
Generally, Microsoft has always said "preview" versions are not for production. To accentuate this, Chuck's link points to Expression Blend Preview, which has this caveat: "This is a preview version for evaluation only and none of the platforms contain a go-live license. You should use other released versions of Blend for production work."
However, the table below that caveat indicates that "Expression Blend Preview for Silverlight 5" is a 'go-live' a.k.a. production version for Silverlight 5. Just FYI: it runs under Expression Blend 4 and supports Silverlight 5, and it is recognized by that orange stripe on the Blend 4.0 icon. Confused? You betcha - but it works; and now I can tell my client that I have used only production versions.
And yes, I am aware that VS2012 has the same design surface, but I needed to change a Silverlight control template, and Blend is the only sane way to do that (IMHO).
And thanks again, Chuck. And I apologize for the harsh post, but I, like many others, am very frustrated by not knowing where Microsoft is going. One of the bright spots is the MS employees (like you) that frequent these forums and help out.
- Edited by batpox Tuesday, December 18, 2012 11:07 PM
Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2:11 AM
Well… if the intention of Microsoft was to discourage, they have succeeded. I was fully on the Silverlight bandwagon until they seemed to drop off the face of the planet without explanation. In frustration I have abandoned Silverlight and feel like I wasted around four years of my life. This is as unprofessional as I have ever seen. At least they finally took down the “New” tag on the Download Silverlight link. Thanks alot MS.... OmegaMan, your Island of Misfit Programming Tech really feels like the place they dumped me off at. Exactly how I feel...
Brian K Williams
Brian K. Williams
Friday, December 21, 2012 8:14 PM
Friday, December 21, 2012 9:44 PMWell crap. Why do I get the feeling this will somehow make things more of a pain in the @$$ and I'll have to get acclimated with this new way after wasting time and even money on things like books to learn Blend stand-alone......yay microsoft! I really want to like you guys....but c'mon now. Guess that means this forum category will disappear before long also right?
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