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You could be September's TechNet Guru! Turbo charge your CV with awards and interviews! Get noticed!

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  • TechNet Wiki is partnering with... YOU!

    Give us some juicy technical content and we might big you up!

    It really is that simple!

     

    Show us your forum solutions or drop us some nifty snippets and become MICROSOFT TECHNOLOGY GURU OF THE MONTH!

    This is an official Microsoft TechNet recognition, where people such as yourselves can truly get noticed!

     

    If you spend any amount of time crafting an awesome answer to a forum question, or just learnt something new, then why not get the most back for your efforts, by posting it to TechNet Wiki.

     

    1) Please copy over any solutions and revelations to TechNet Wiki.

    2) Add a link to it on THIS WIKI PAGE, so we know you've contributed

    3) Every month, we will highlight your contributions, and select a "Guru of the Month" in each technology.

     

    If you win, we will sing your praises, similar to the weekly contributor awards, however once "on our radar" and making your mark, you will probably be interviewed for your greatness, and eventually even invited into other TechNet/MSDN circles!

     

    Either way, winning this award in your favoured technology can only be very good for your career! ;)

     

    Feel free to ask any questions below.

     

    Thanks in advance!
    Pete Laker


    #PEJL Got a good solution? If you invest your time in coding an elegant/novel or large answer on these MSDN forums, why not copy it over to our beloved TechNet Wiki, for future generations to benefit from!

    Sunday, September 01, 2013 8:49 PM

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  • Frank, every month you will have noticed I try a different eye catching headline.

    Simply trying to keep it fresh ;)

     

    We invite you to join the fun, for whatever motive you desire :D


    #PEJL Got a good solution? If you invest your time in coding an elegant/novel or large answer on these MSDN forums, why not copy it over to our beloved TechNet Wiki, for future generations to benefit from!

    Sunday, September 01, 2013 10:33 PM
  • For what its worth, here is my understanding of (and thoughts on) the program:

    The motive is to promote the TechNet Wiki as a premier source of technical information for all things Windows, including development.  The singing of praises is the reward system to encourage participation in the program.  The overall goal is to have the "Wikipedia" of development, built by developers for developers.  I've been impressed by several of the submissions to this program so far, especially around SQL and SharePoint.  I think its time to add Dynamics as well, but that's another topic.

    I can see a day in the not so distant future when most "how-to" searches for many common development scenarios will all converge on TechNet articles.  That will be so much better than the current river of blogs that one typically has to wade through with the way things are today.

    To me, this program is a good step in the right direction.  If a stroking of the ego is the only carrot available to dangle in order to encourage participation, then that will have to do.  Personally, it does make me feel good when my work receives the praise of others.  I suspect this is true for most people.  However, I also enjoy writing the articles themselves and providing some nuggets of knowledge for whomever may need them - that's why I participate in the forums and also why I agree that the forums are a good place to recruit writers for the TechNet wiki.


    Reed Kimble - "When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"

    Tuesday, September 03, 2013 12:40 AM
    Moderator
  • Wow, what an interesting tastic conversation here!

    Coincidentally, I wrote a blog post last month that is exactly this topic...

    Wiki Life: Why create a TechNet Wiki article when you can just link to a forum thread?

    So Frank, this article goes through the various motives. One might be recognition, and some folks might want more Recognition Points and Achievement Medals as a means to an end on their journey to become an MVP and to impact the future of their favorite products. So even that might not be selfish.

    Regardless, I hope you'll find a few different perspectives and reasons there.

    Thanks!


    Ed Price, SQL Server Customer Program Manager (Blog, Small Basic, Wiki Ninjas, Wiki)

    Answer an interesting question? Create a wiki article about it!

    Tuesday, September 03, 2013 10:03 PM
    Moderator
  • Wow, what an interesting tastic conversation here!

    Coincidentally, I wrote a blog post last month that is exactly this topic...

    Wiki Life: Why create a TechNet Wiki article when you can just link to a forum thread?

    So Frank, this article goes through the various motives. One might be recognition, and some folks might want more Recognition Points and Achievement Medals as a means to an end on their journey to become an MVP and to impact the future of their favorite products. So even that might not be selfish.

    Regardless, I hope you'll find a few different perspectives and reasons there.

    Thanks!


    Ed Price, SQL Server Customer Program Manager (Blog, Small Basic, Wiki Ninjas, Wiki)

    Answer an interesting question? Create a wiki article about it!


    Ed,

    Sorry for the delay in replying.

    I do understand your point when you said:

    But here's my point...

    You are spending your time writing up some fantastic solutions. They are great answers that a lot of people need. But how many people are going to find and understand the solution when it's in the forum's context? Not enough. Especially since you didn't write the title of the thread... the original poster did. So what if the title doesn't get your solution the best SEO that it deserves? (Which is 99% of the cases.) The result is that people can't find your awesome solutions!

    The collection of and advanced searching capabilities are a great idea, but who’s to be the judge of good and bad? JUNK solutions which go unchallenged will soon proliferate at the same rate that qualified ones do and if the JUNK ones are shorter and easier to understand – well look at this forum for many examples.

    Plenty of times someone will post a GREAT solution and it’s done correctly – ah but it’s a bit complex.

    Next someone else will post three lines of code and you just watch who gets the checkmark.

    ***

    I do wish you well in your endeavors and I mean that most sincerely, but I really would suggest toning down on the advertising campaign for what I think are obvious reasons.

    Valeo.

     


    Please call me Frank :)

    Wednesday, September 04, 2013 1:29 PM
  • Wow, what an interesting tastic conversation here!

    Coincidentally, I wrote a blog post last month that is exactly this topic...

    Wiki Life: Why create a TechNet Wiki article when you can just link to a forum thread?

    So Frank, this article goes through the various motives. One might be recognition, and some folks might want more Recognition Points and Achievement Medals as a means to an end on their journey to become an MVP and to impact the future of their favorite products. So even that might not be selfish.

    Regardless, I hope you'll find a few different perspectives and reasons there.

    Thanks!


    Ed Price, SQL Server Customer Program Manager (Blog, Small Basic, Wiki Ninjas, Wiki)

    Answer an interesting question? Create a wiki article about it!


    Ed,

    Sorry for the delay in replying.

    I do understand your point when you said:

    But here's my point...

    You are spending your time writing up some fantastic solutions. They are great answers that a lot of people need. But how many people are going to find and understand the solution when it's in the forum's context? Not enough. Especially since you didn't write the title of the thread... the original poster did. So what if the title doesn't get your solution the best SEO that it deserves? (Which is 99% of the cases.) The result is that people can't find your awesome solutions!

    The collection of and advanced searching capabilities are a great idea, but who’s to be the judge of good and bad? JUNK solutions which go unchallenged will soon proliferate at the same rate that qualified ones do and if the JUNK ones are shorter and easier to understand – well look at this forum for many examples.

    Plenty of times someone will post a GREAT solution and it’s done correctly – ah but it’s a bit complex.

    Next someone else will post three lines of code and you just watch who gets the checkmark.

    ***

    I do wish you well in your endeavors and I mean that most sincerely, but I really would suggest toning down on the advertising campaign for what I think are obvious reasons.

    Valeo.

     


    Please call me Frank :)

    Frank,

    Simply as an analogy; you write for me in fact that the management of this Forum software has taken the solution which many consumers take as the best. If you search on Internet you will find more replies in front which are telling that Apple is better then Microsoft, because people has voted therefore. But what does it say, for kids Jobs is more popular than Ballmer so that makes the decision. 

    However, this forum is not a consumer forum and using information is not like consumers do it. We take our time to get the best solution. A pity is if that is hidden by all kind of humbug on Internet which are put behind because of what you wrote.

    However, we both have spent about the same time in development, so you know this like me (this was longer but will be misunderstood by people which have not all those experiences). We've seen this endless times and it will happen endless times in future in all kind of occasions. 


    Lets hope that one of the first things which will be changed at Microsoft is to put a real coder (not a scripter) in a position which has responsibility of the Microsoft software development forums and other development presentations.


    Success
    Cor



    Thursday, September 05, 2013 7:29 AM
  • Cor,

    I'm convinced that some do genuinely want to learn but there's a percentage of people in this forum who aren't really interested in learning anything; they just want "free code" and they'll grab the simple and overlook the rest.

    Sad and unfortunate for them they're like that - but there's really not much to change it.

    I've seen people here post links to "how to" videos from Youtube ... holy smoke what bad advice they get from some of those!

    Worse though - they use that as the basis of their question, as though to imply "this is qualified good practice and procedure", then go on from there with their question, when in reality someone needs to say "that is NOT a good way to do this!". So they're essentially moving the wrong direction then it's a tangled knot indeed to try to push them back the other way.

    Anyway ... it is what it is. What can ya do. ;-)


    Please call me Frank :)

    Thursday, September 05, 2013 5:22 PM
  • Cor,

    I'm convinced that some do genuinely want to learn but there's a percentage of people in this forum who aren't really interested in learning anything; they just want "free code" and they'll grab the simple and overlook the rest.

    Sad and unfortunate for them they're like that - but there's really not much to change it.

    I've seen people here post links to "how to" videos from Youtube ... holy smoke what bad advice they get from some of those!

    Worse though - they use that as the basis of their question, as though to imply "this is qualified good practice and procedure", then go on from there with their question, when in reality someone needs to say "that is NOT a good way to do this!". So they're essentially moving the wrong direction then it's a tangled knot indeed to try to push them back the other way.

    Anyway ... it is what it is. What can ya do. ;-)


    Please call me Frank :)

    Frank, you have always impressed me with your posts. Cor your posts sometimes get way off their but most of the time you make some great analogies. I would think you best an instructor or teacher. Students like it when you show them a way to do stuff that is interesting yet does not require 10 page papers. 

    I am currently writing a document in word about my Kinect multipoint project the Kinect code side. I will transfer to the wiki either in the last week of September or early October. I'll send a rough draft copy to renee and paul ishak to ask what they think. Question: can I upload a picture to the wiki to include in a document similar to how I can include two pictures in a forums solution?


    Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth. - "Sherlock holmes" "speak softly and carry a big stick" - theodore roosevelt. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering - Yoda. Blog - http://www.computerprofessions.co.nr


    • Edited by The Thinker Monday, September 23, 2013 1:39 PM edit
    Monday, September 09, 2013 9:05 PM
  • Wow, what an interesting tastic conversation here!

    Coincidentally, I wrote a blog post last month that is exactly this topic...

    Wiki Life: Why create a TechNet Wiki article when you can just link to a forum thread?

    So Frank, this article goes through the various motives. One might be recognition, and some folks might want more Recognition Points and Achievement Medals as a means to an end on their journey to become an MVP and to impact the future of their favorite products. So even that might not be selfish.

    Regardless, I hope you'll find a few different perspectives and reasons there.

    Thanks!


    Ed Price, SQL Server Customer Program Manager (Blog, Small Basic, Wiki Ninjas, Wiki)

    Answer an interesting question? Create a wiki article about it!


    Ed,

    Sorry for the delay in replying.

    I do understand your point when you said:

    But here's my point...

    You are spending your time writing up some fantastic solutions. They are great answers that a lot of people need. But how many people are going to find and understand the solution when it's in the forum's context? Not enough. Especially since you didn't write the title of the thread... the original poster did. So what if the title doesn't get your solution the best SEO that it deserves? (Which is 99% of the cases.) The result is that people can't find your awesome solutions!

    The collection of and advanced searching capabilities are a great idea, but who’s to be the judge of good and bad? JUNK solutions which go unchallenged will soon proliferate at the same rate that qualified ones do and if the JUNK ones are shorter and easier to understand – well look at this forum for many examples.

    Plenty of times someone will post a GREAT solution and it’s done correctly – ah but it’s a bit complex.

    Next someone else will post three lines of code and you just watch who gets the checkmark.

    ***

    I do wish you well in your endeavors and I mean that most sincerely, but I really would suggest toning down on the advertising campaign for what I think are obvious reasons.

    Valeo.

     


    Please call me Frank :)

    Who's to be the judge of good and bad? Well on the Wiki, the community improves the "bad" where the solution isn't detailed enough. So it all becomes "good". =^)

    Thanks!!


    Ed Price, SQL Server Customer Program Manager (Blog, Small Basic, Wiki Ninjas, Wiki)

    Answer an interesting question? Create a wiki article about it!

    Tuesday, September 10, 2013 8:53 PM
    Moderator
  • Two submisssions from Paul. Check them out!


    Ed Price, SQL Server Customer Program Manager (Blog, Small Basic, Wiki Ninjas, Wiki)

    Answer an interesting question? Create a wiki article about it!

    Tuesday, September 10, 2013 8:55 PM
    Moderator
  • Question: can I upload a picture to the wiki to include in a document similar to how I can include two pictures in a forums solution?

     

    You can include many images in a TechNet Wiki article.

     

    There is a button called "Insert Image, highlighted in the image below:

     

     

    Good luck!
    Pete


    #PEJL Got a good solution? If you invest your time in coding an elegant/novel or large answer on these MSDN forums, why not copy it over to our beloved TechNet Wiki, for future generations to benefit from!

    Tuesday, September 10, 2013 11:27 PM
  • 10 more days to go!

    Some people were asking questions, so here are some answers:

    • The goal is to get some content where thousands more people can find it, read it, and benefit from it. The fact is that some people won't really understand this concept unless they are in the Wiki community personally and see all the amazing benefits. I addressed some of the issues in this blog post, but nothing compares to first-hand experiences: Wiki Life: Why create a TechNet Wiki article when you can just link to a forum thread?
    • I'm not on the Forums team. I'm not involved with the Redesign or the forum features. I believe there's a Forums Community Council going on, so if you're an MVP, you can email me (edprice at Microsoft), and I'll try to get you on the council. They won't roll back the design, but you can help refine it and make it into what the community needs.  

    Thanks!


    Ed Price, SQL Server Customer Program Manager (Blog, Small Basic, Wiki Ninjas, Wiki)

    Answer an interesting question? Create a wiki article about it!

    Saturday, September 21, 2013 12:03 AM
    Moderator
  • I'll try for an article in September. Right now it looks like I might have to wait until October to submit a new article because of this accelerated class on ethics and politics getting in the way (At times I want to go ugh!).

    Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth. - "Sherlock holmes" "speak softly and carry a big stick" - theodore roosevelt. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering - Yoda. Blog - http://www.computerprofessions.co.nr

    Monday, September 23, 2013 1:38 PM
  • I'm convinced that some do genuinely want to learn but there's a percentage of people in this forum who aren't really interested in learning anything; they just want "free code" and they'll grab the simple and overlook the rest.

    Sad and unfortunate for them they're like that - but there's really not much to change it.


    Please call me Frank :)


    In a lot of cases in a lot of forums, that seems to happen, but in my experience those people don't stick around very long...

    thanks for any help

    Monday, September 23, 2013 10:51 PM
  • I'm convinced that some do genuinely want to learn but there's a percentage of people in this forum who aren't really interested in learning anything; they just want "free code" and they'll grab the simple and overlook the rest.

    Sad and unfortunate for them they're like that - but there's really not much to change it.


    Please call me Frank :)


    In a lot of cases in a lot of forums, that seems to happen, but in my experience those people don't stick around very long...

    thanks for any help

    At the bottom of the line, what I say is:

    "So What?"

    If I choose to answer, it is because I wanted to, ... I enjoy answering and coding,  I have fun doing it. .. No matter what the OP does with the code.

    And the OP is happy, he got it's free code

    .

    Since every body is happy, there is no bad ... 

    Monday, September 23, 2013 11:52 PM
  • Hi ALL,

    Okay, I've finally decide to collate the code snippets in this thread into a wiki article.

    I've not really edited the text much but I felt that it was better suited to have all the code in one place.

    Additionally it has inspired me to write another code based article on some other graphics based effects and techniques that I've not yet shared anywhere on these Microsoft web site pages. So it looks like it is time to dust off my VB.Net IDE.

    It has renewed my interest in the forum pages too which can't be a bad thing I reckon.  ;-)


    Regards,

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    Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:43 AM
  • Hi ALL,

    Okay, I've finally decide to collate the code snippets in this thread into a wiki article.

    I've not really edited the text much but I felt that it was better suited to have all the code in one place.

    Additionally it has inspired me to write another code based article on some other graphics based effects and techniques that I've not yet shared anywhere on these Microsoft web site pages. So it looks like it is time to dust off my VB.Net IDE.

    It has renewed my interest in the forum pages too which can't be a bad thing I reckon.  ;-)


    Regards,

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    That's awesome John!

    We're up to 3 articles:

     

    Two more days to go! Any last minute entries? =^)

    Thanks, everyone!


    Ed Price, SQL Server Customer Program Manager (Blog, Small Basic, Wiki Ninjas, Wiki)

    Answer an interesting question? Create a wiki article about it!


    Saturday, September 28, 2013 9:12 PM
    Moderator
  • I'll try for an article in September. Right now it looks like I might have to wait until October to submit a new article because of this accelerated class on ethics and politics getting in the way (At times I want to go ugh!).

    Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth. - "Sherlock holmes" "speak softly and carry a big stick" - theodore roosevelt. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering - Yoda. Blog - http://www.computerprofessions.co.nr


    Two more days to go!

    Ed Price, SQL Server Customer Program Manager (Blog, Small Basic, Wiki Ninjas, Wiki)

    Answer an interesting question? Create a wiki article about it!

    Saturday, September 28, 2013 9:15 PM
    Moderator
  • Two more days to go! Any last minute entries? =^)

    Thanks John for the great entry!

    Three articles so far:

     

    Thanks, everyone!


    Ed Price, SQL Server Customer Program Manager (Blog, Small Basic, Wiki Ninjas, Wiki)

    Answer an interesting question? Create a wiki article about it!


    Saturday, September 28, 2013 9:17 PM
    Moderator


  • Answer an interesting question? Create a wiki article about it!


    Hi Ed Price,

    With regard to "an interesting question", have you anything in mind yourself?

     I was under the impression that the Wiki pages would be better suited to "interesting solutions"

    or maybe something along the lines of "in depth ( How to ) tutorial(s)"?

    Firstly, I think we need more on board to get this Wiki thingy going in all manner of subjects.

    Maybe some "recruitment" ideas may be needed?

    Thanks for your "thanks" too.  :-)  :-D

     I am considering another article or two but I may save it / them for some time in October.


    Regards,

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    Sunday, September 29, 2013 11:39 PM
  • Hi ALL,

    Is this "invite to become this months TechNet guru"

    going to be an ongoing thing? Unfortunately, it seems like there isn't a lot of interest in it for VB.Net articles.


    Regards,

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    Tuesday, October 01, 2013 11:05 AM