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  • There are some threads related to Lab Mgmt license i.e. http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vslab/thread/cc8599e8-6430-4091-8418-4d0855fa3052 but I am still not clear some stuff...

    In our team, most of the team members has MSDN Ultimate subscription, but only a few guys have premium subscription.

    My questions:

    1. Lab management seems now included with TFS without any additional cost provided the users have Test Professional or Visual Studio Ultimate license. But how about the SCVMM? What kind of license I need to purchase? Anything related to number of host CPU's managed by Team Lab or CALs?

    2. I installed Team foundation server with my MSDN Ultimate. Is there anything else to pay if more users (suppose 50 users) access the server? Suppose the 50 users all have MSDN subscription (Ultimate\Premium\Test Professional)...

    3. It's weird to me that Coded UI development is not supported in Test Professional, it's very common for a tester to developer automation scripts (unit test / coded ui)... but now we have to purchase MSDN Ultimate for testers.

    Question #2 and #3 are related to TFS instead of Lab Mgmt, but it will be great if anyone can give a answer here as well.


    totta wang



    • Diedit oleh totta wang 12 Maret 2012 8:14 fixed typo
    05 Maret 2012 7:14

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  • Totta,

    Can't help with 3, but this might help with 1 and 2.

    1. Anyone with VS Ultimate or Test Professional can use SCVMM to manage virtual machines in a lab environment without requiring a license for it. Here's the language, from Microsoft's Product Use Rights document, which appears for both of those editions of VS:

    [VS Ultimate with MSDN and VS Test Pro with MSDN] customers may install and run SCVMM with the Visual Studio Ultimate software for the purpose of creating, deploying and managing lab environment(s).  A lab environment is a virtual operating system environment used solely for the purpose of developing and testing your programs. You do not need management licenses for that use.  No other production use rights of SCVMM are given under this license, such as managing virtualized production servers.

    2. every VS Ultimate, Premium, Pro, and Test Pro subscription (all with MSDN) includes a VS TFS User CAL. So if they have one of those subscriptions, no further CALs are required.

    Paul DeGroot
    Principal Consultant
    Pica Communications
    "Solving the Microsoft Licensing Puzzle"


    Paul DeGroot Principal Consultant Pica Communications "Solving the Microsoft Licensing Puzzle"

    12 Maret 2012 1:44
  • You might have to call them to figure out how to get a key and the bits. I have a spreadsheet from Microsoft (it must be publicly available, since I don't have an MSDN subscription) that lists Products by Benefit Level (You might try searching for "MSDN Products by Benefit Level") and it says that Ultimate and Premium with MSDN both include SCVMM.

    Paul DeGroot Principal Consultant Pica Communications "Solving the Microsoft Licensing Puzzle"

    12 Maret 2012 16:46

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  • Hello totta,

    1). I am sorry that I can't find you more SCVMM license information for you. I think you' better consult CAL experts directly. You can call 1-800-426-9400, Monday through Friday, 6:00 A.M. to 6:00 P.M. (Pacific Time) to speak directly to a Microsoft licensing specialist, and you can get more detail information from there. Worldwide customers can use the Guide to Worldwide Microsoft Licensing Sites to find contact information in their locations: http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/

    2). According to the Visual Studio 2010 and MSDN Licensing White Paper:

    To utilize the Lab Management functionality in Visual Studio 2010, the operating system(s) used to run Team Foundation Server, including the server, the build server, and the database—which can each be run on a separate operating system—must always be acquired separately.

    3). According to the Visual Studio 2010 and MSDN Licensing White Paper:

    Each person accessing the Virtual Machine Host (or accessing a virtual machine on that host) must have anMSDN subscription that contains the software they are using to develop or test the application.

    Please take a look at the Lab Management Licensing part of  Visual Studio 2010 and MSDN Licensing White Paper for further information.

    Thanks.


    Vicky Song [MSFT]
    MSDN Community Support | Feedback to us

    07 Maret 2012 6:09
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  • Totta,

    Can't help with 3, but this might help with 1 and 2.

    1. Anyone with VS Ultimate or Test Professional can use SCVMM to manage virtual machines in a lab environment without requiring a license for it. Here's the language, from Microsoft's Product Use Rights document, which appears for both of those editions of VS:

    [VS Ultimate with MSDN and VS Test Pro with MSDN] customers may install and run SCVMM with the Visual Studio Ultimate software for the purpose of creating, deploying and managing lab environment(s).  A lab environment is a virtual operating system environment used solely for the purpose of developing and testing your programs. You do not need management licenses for that use.  No other production use rights of SCVMM are given under this license, such as managing virtualized production servers.

    2. every VS Ultimate, Premium, Pro, and Test Pro subscription (all with MSDN) includes a VS TFS User CAL. So if they have one of those subscriptions, no further CALs are required.

    Paul DeGroot
    Principal Consultant
    Pica Communications
    "Solving the Microsoft Licensing Puzzle"


    Paul DeGroot Principal Consultant Pica Communications "Solving the Microsoft Licensing Puzzle"

    12 Maret 2012 1:44
  • I understand that VS Ultimate with MSDN and VS Test Pro with MSDN can access lab center through test case manager, but I didn't find any clue that SCVMM license is included in VS Ultimate MSDN subscription by checking "My Product Keys" of MSDN subscription. Currently, I installed trial version of SCVMM from http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/cc793138.aspx


    totta wang

    12 Maret 2012 9:09
  • You might have to call them to figure out how to get a key and the bits. I have a spreadsheet from Microsoft (it must be publicly available, since I don't have an MSDN subscription) that lists Products by Benefit Level (You might try searching for "MSDN Products by Benefit Level") and it says that Ultimate and Premium with MSDN both include SCVMM.

    Paul DeGroot Principal Consultant Pica Communications "Solving the Microsoft Licensing Puzzle"

    12 Maret 2012 16:46
  • You should use the SCVMM media that is available from your MSDN subscription.  It does not need a product key and is what we call "pre-PID'ed."  You can find these types of downloads that don't require product keys by looking in MSDN Subscriber Downloads and notice it will indicate that "No product key is required" for some of the downloads.  For example, check out the System Center 2012 downloads:  https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/securedownloads/#ProductFamilyId=463

    Let us know if you have any additional questions!


    Ed Blankenship
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    17 Desember 2012 22:00