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  • Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:32 AMDaniel Smith Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    I've been playing with the Visual Studio 2010 CTP virtual machine, and just noticed something slightly worrying - Crystal reports seems to be missing!

    Has support been dropped, or will it be an optional feature or something?

    Thanks,
    Dan

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  • Friday, October 31, 2008 5:52 AMLingzhi SunMSFT, ModeratorUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
     

    Hello,

            Until now, I think we could only see test version or pre-release version of Visual Studio 2010, so we have no idea of whether crystal report is supported in the RTM version of Visual Studio 2010.   However, I am sure that Microsoft will give us a better version of Visual Studio.   And I think Visual Studio product team are alwas listening to customers’ feedbacks and suggestions on Visual Studio products, so your opinion will be surely taken into consideration.  

     

           Thanks,

    Best Regards,
    Lingzhi


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  • Monday, November 03, 2008 2:09 PMDaniel Smith Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Hi Lingzhi,

    Thank you for the info.  Is there any chance you could speak to one of your colleagues in the VS team and ask them what the plans are?  I know it's not always possible to comment on the features of future releases, but it would be reassuring to hear what the intentions are.

    If Crystal Reports support has been discontinued, this would be very disappointing, especially as there has been no prior notice.  If the intension is to remove support, then it really should have been flagged up as "deprecated" in VS2008 in order to give people enough notice to evaluate the alternatives.

    Any further info on this would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Dan
  • Monday, December 01, 2008 1:23 AMLingzhi SunMSFT, ModeratorUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     

    Hi Daniel,

    Thank you very much for your feedback.   We are trying to send a feature request to the Visual Studio product team.   Subsequently, could you please offer some more information on the business impact of you, if Crystal Report support is missing in Visual Studio 2010? 

     

    Best Regards,
    Lingzhi


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  • Monday, December 08, 2008 7:54 PMJohnHorb Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Can I add to this request? We use Crystal Reports extensively in ASP.NET projects, and would be very disappointed if support IS to be dropped.

    John Horbury

    Industrial Technology system Ltd.
  • Saturday, January 31, 2009 3:06 PMIwillsurvive Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Hi

    Lets make this one a voting session to make sure CR is added. I use it a lot!

    FS
  • Friday, May 29, 2009 9:59 AMDaniel Smith Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     

    Hi Lingzhi,

    So sorry I didn't notice your second reply until now.  I've been evaluating VS2010 beta 1 and indeed, Crystal Reports has been removed from VS2010.

    As for the impact, this affects roughly 15-20 different applications that are in production use which are developed at my company (we're a software house).  Across all the applications, we have literally hundreds of reports.  The cost of reworking the reports to switch to MS reporting would be prohibitive (both developer time and budget).  In addition the MS reporting technologies lack many of the more powerful features and flexibility of Crystal Reports.

    We'll likely simply have to purchase the full Crystal Reports liscence from SAP, which will hopefully be compatible with Visual Studio 2010 when it's released.

    -Dan

  • Friday, May 29, 2009 11:54 AMRPGtoVBDOTNETprogrammer Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     

    Are we absolutely sure that Crystal reports is being dropped in 2010?
    Can someone from Microsoft address this? Thanks.

  • Tuesday, June 02, 2009 8:06 AMDaniel Smith Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Thanks for checking up on that for us Lingzhi.  That's great news that Crystal Report will be returning in later builds :-)
  • Friday, June 05, 2009 7:09 PMWakh Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     

    Removal of it will impact developers greatly. We need it in the Visual Studio 2010.

  • Monday, October 12, 2009 4:17 PMJorge C. Rocha Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Hi,
    but it will support Framework 4?

    Jorge C. Rocha
  • Monday, October 26, 2009 5:41 PMScott Nonnenberg MSFT Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
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    Hey everyone.

    It turns out that Crystal Reports for Visual Studio 2010 will be released separately, instead of included with the product. Please let me know if you have any questions.

    Scott Nonnenberg
    scottno@microsoft.com
    Program Manager, Visual C# Team
  • Monday, October 26, 2009 10:08 PMJorge C. Rocha Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     

    Hi,

    can you send more info about this, i have 300 reports in my app.
    i can i see that working ?

    i have install the VS2010 beta 2 and i want see crystal reports working.
    i have web services to print rpts.

    Thanks.


    Jorge C. Rocha
  • Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:23 PMJohn Irvine Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     

    Hi,

    This all appears a bit worrying, as I'm finding it quite complex to run Microsofts own Reports in VS2008, Crystal Reports is much more friendly in a forms app. If CR is dropping has Reporting improved particularly with passing parameters, will it represent a viable alternative?

    Thanks



    John
  • Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:54 AMLingzhi SunMSFT, ModeratorUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     

    Hi everyone,

     

    Sorry for my last post.  Currently, Crystal Report will be released separately from Visual Studio 2010 as Scott has said.   

     

     

    Best Regards,
    Lingzhi Sun


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  • Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:22 AMDaniel Smith Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Just to get both sides of the story, I contacted SAP (who now own BusinessObjects) regarding Visual Studio 2010 support.  Here's what they had to say: 
    Crystal will no longer be embedded within VS 2010 but there will not be a Free version of Crystal Reports for VS 2010, there will be a product available specifically for VS2010 however but I have no further information on it as of yet. I am sure that there will be a beta program nearer the release date.
    SAP BusinessObject Devision

    This is somewhat different from the impression I was getting that there would possibly be a free version available as a separate download from SAP.  So there you go.  This pretty much rules out an upgrade to VS2010 for us :-(
  • Sunday, November 22, 2009 12:33 PMBoVistisen Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Just ran into the same problem. Imcredible! No backwards compatable reporting tools.
    All my applications, web or windows based, contains printable pdf reports.

    From my view this was the only way to get all the nice numbers we can produce on screen out in a practical usable report. Even in pdf format.
    What are we supposed to do now?
    Are we supposed to stay in VS2008 and wait on VS2012, like we have just been standing in XP awaiting Microsoft to form Vistas into a stable 64-bit working successor?

    Or am I missing something here?
    Maybe Microsoft are taking Crystal Report out after all these years to introduce a much better solution? Is this the case?
    Can anybody give me a link to an example how-to produce a nice technical report in paper with header, footers and results in nice columns preferable in pdf?

    Thanks in advance.
    Bo Vistisen