<p>Hello, and welcome to the Phoenix forum! I am the Release Program Manager for the Phoenix product team.  I wanted to quickly mention our current participation in the industry.</p> <p>In addition to our RDK, we have also produced a Commercial Development Kit.  This CDK contains the same bits of Phoenix as the RDK, but by including a different End User License Agreement allows our commercial partners early access to Phoenix.  The CDK is not available via download and only by contacting the product group.  We currently have over a dozen companies of various sizes learning about Phoenix. At this point, use of Phoenix within the industry is still very restricted to internal research.  </p> <p>Over the next 6 months, the Phoenix team will be transitioning from the RDK/CDK release to our SDK.  This SDK will be available through a Beta program up until we ship with a future version of Visual Studio.</p> <p>Thank you,</p> <p>Sarah Derstadt - MSFT</p>© 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:14:01 Zb064ab9e-e8ae-4693-92dc-2e640cc0794bhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/phoenix/thread/b064ab9e-e8ae-4693-92dc-2e640cc0794b#b064ab9e-e8ae-4693-92dc-2e640cc0794bhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/phoenix/thread/b064ab9e-e8ae-4693-92dc-2e640cc0794b#b064ab9e-e8ae-4693-92dc-2e640cc0794bSarah Derstadt - MSFThttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Sarah%20Derstadt%20-%20MSFT<p>Hello, and welcome to the Phoenix forum! I am the Release Program Manager for the Phoenix product team.  I wanted to quickly mention our current participation in the industry.</p> <p>In addition to our RDK, we have also produced a Commercial Development Kit.  This CDK contains the same bits of Phoenix as the RDK, but by including a different End User License Agreement allows our commercial partners early access to Phoenix.  The CDK is not available via download and only by contacting the product group.  We currently have over a dozen companies of various sizes learning about Phoenix. At this point, use of Phoenix within the industry is still very restricted to internal research.  </p> <p>Over the next 6 months, the Phoenix team will be transitioning from the RDK/CDK release to our SDK.  This SDK will be available through a Beta program up until we ship with a future version of Visual Studio.</p> <p>Thank you,</p> <p>Sarah Derstadt - MSFT</p>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:50:48 Z2007-02-27T17:50:48Zhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/phoenix/thread/b064ab9e-e8ae-4693-92dc-2e640cc0794b#caff9a70-aab3-40db-a5f9-7d764a0d17d3http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/phoenix/thread/b064ab9e-e8ae-4693-92dc-2e640cc0794b#caff9a70-aab3-40db-a5f9-7d764a0d17d3marklevishttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=marklevis<p>Sarah,</p> <p align=left> </p> <p align=left>How would we go about getting access to the CDK? </p> <p align=left> </p> <p align=left><a title="mailto:Mark.levis@compuware.com" href="mailto:Mark.levis@compuware.com">Mark.levis@compuware.com</a></p> <p align=left>Compuware - DevPartner Studio</p> <p align=left><font face=Arial size=2></font> </p>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:14:41 Z2007-08-31T10:14:41Zhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/phoenix/thread/b064ab9e-e8ae-4693-92dc-2e640cc0794b#72a72340-3e6d-4335-be84-e6c76482c91bhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/phoenix/thread/b064ab9e-e8ae-4693-92dc-2e640cc0794b#72a72340-3e6d-4335-be84-e6c76482c91bMK74http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=MK74Hey... I'm new to this forum. It's been more that a year since this thread was started... any news about it? <img src="http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/WebResource.axd?d=NySzF1eivP_rMoc50GQJzcvS4MHMOEKwYrCIgDtzuzlw7GsNki3H_INlfYaLgkxFdA4ESFRtesEUXj11MHjIL5WMBvm3Pubiu_iWcnqAaGQ1&amp;t=633337194230757564"> <p align=left><font face=Arial size=2></font> </p> <p>Thank you!</p> <p align=left> </p> <p align=left>MK74</p>Thu, 22 May 2008 18:27:32 Z2008-05-22T18:27:32Zhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/phoenix/thread/b064ab9e-e8ae-4693-92dc-2e640cc0794b#edc0114b-afb9-4f61-bfd8-f0ea7857f645http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/phoenix/thread/b064ab9e-e8ae-4693-92dc-2e640cc0794b#edc0114b-afb9-4f61-bfd8-f0ea7857f645_fy_http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=_fy_ Sarah,<br>     What is the license content for free developer, or independent secuirty research people?<br>thanks&amp;Reards<br>_fy_Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:18:14 Z2008-07-23T06:18:14Zhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/phoenix/thread/b064ab9e-e8ae-4693-92dc-2e640cc0794b#379aae17-5da3-4739-9c95-80d0ff3a8cb6http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/phoenix/thread/b064ab9e-e8ae-4693-92dc-2e640cc0794b#379aae17-5da3-4739-9c95-80d0ff3a8cb6Wolfgang Schulthttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Wolfgang%20Schult Hi Sarah,<br>I'm highly interested in using phoenix for commerciap purposes. Where can I get an appropriate license for doing this?<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Wolfgang.Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:15:07 Z2008-11-19T08:15:07Zhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/phoenix/thread/b064ab9e-e8ae-4693-92dc-2e640cc0794b#b19bd9c7-27cc-44a8-af7b-4a30478f879fhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/phoenix/thread/b064ab9e-e8ae-4693-92dc-2e640cc0794b#b19bd9c7-27cc-44a8-af7b-4a30478f879fAndy Ayers - MSFThttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Andy%20Ayers%20-%20MSFT Hi All --<br><br>Nothing to report on the commercial licensing front. We expect to release an updated RDK with its current non-commercial restrictions sometime in the next few months; there's no timeline at present for any other form of release.<hr class="sig">Architect - Microsoft Phoenix ProjectThu, 20 Nov 2008 04:57:07 Z2008-11-20T04:57:07Zhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/phoenix/thread/b064ab9e-e8ae-4693-92dc-2e640cc0794b#eccb3e98-9eae-449e-91ea-116dcfc7b0a7http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/phoenix/thread/b064ab9e-e8ae-4693-92dc-2e640cc0794b#eccb3e98-9eae-449e-91ea-116dcfc7b0a7BenK3http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=BenK3Any update on this a &quot;Research only license &quot; is of little use as a lot of research products eventually get used in Open source or commercial packages. It would be a shame to spend so much time learning the system to learn you cant use it or cant use critical bits.Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:05:01 Z2009-09-11T06:05:01Zhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/phoenix/thread/b064ab9e-e8ae-4693-92dc-2e640cc0794b#ec03516a-2ed7-453a-890d-cf53d20860c3http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/phoenix/thread/b064ab9e-e8ae-4693-92dc-2e640cc0794b#ec03516a-2ed7-453a-890d-cf53d20860c3Andy Ayers - MSFThttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Andy%20Ayers%20-%20MSFTNo, nothing's changed. I understand this is a real blocker for many users, but we are where we are. We still hope to get an updated RDK out, but don't have a particular timeframe for that either.<hr class="sig">Architect - Microsoft Phoenix ProjectThu, 01 Oct 2009 23:53:51 Z2009-10-01T23:53:51Z