Release Pex for 2008 nowShip it as is. Euan told me to put this here if I love it.<br><br>I love it. So will my customers. © 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:35:52 Z6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013Jeff Levinsonhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Jeff%20LevinsonRelease Pex for 2008 nowShip it as is. Euan told me to put this here if I love it.<br><br>I love it. So will my customers. Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:37:30 Z2009-01-14T17:34:46Zhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#743894cc-98c7-40c1-89a7-8484816a230ahttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#743894cc-98c7-40c1-89a7-8484816a230aMark Michaelishttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Mark%20MichaelisRelease Pex for 2008 now Amen.... Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:02:22 Z2008-11-12T18:02:22Zhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#7e30ae7e-91c9-4a36-9daf-c5b931a288bfhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#7e30ae7e-91c9-4a36-9daf-c5b931a288bfkdan2000http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=kdan2000Release Pex for 2008 now I am new here. Please bear with my question:  how about code contract Release and its license?Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:47:37 Z2008-11-18T20:47:37Zhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#2d355259-3b65-40c9-86b8-db105e3e60a5http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#2d355259-3b65-40c9-86b8-db105e3e60a5Pelihttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=PeliRelease Pex for 2008 now Hi kdan2000,<br><br>You should probably repost your question as a new thread on the forum. <br><br>Thanks, Peli<hr class="sig">Jonathan de HalleuxTue, 18 Nov 2008 21:05:35 Z2008-11-18T21:05:35Zhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#04bd97ec-1fa3-40d6-b92a-b8ffd909aacbhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#04bd97ec-1fa3-40d6-b92a-b8ffd909aacbDJOukhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=DJOukRelease Pex for 2008 nowI would like to add how awesome Pex is, and how much I want a commercial release! Do we really need to wait until VS 2010? (if that) <hr class="sig">DamienWed, 19 Nov 2008 17:07:16 Z2008-11-19T17:07:16Zhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#4f0baa4e-b530-478f-acfc-ab80491cf7a7http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#4f0baa4e-b530-478f-acfc-ab80491cf7a7Th. Wellerhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Th.%20WellerRelease Pex for 2008 now<span class=Apple-style-span style="line-height:15px">Personally, I love Pex. Having unit tests at the micro level together with 100% code coverage is a great thing. At the moment, I do it manually using a combination of <i>MbUnit/Gallio</i> and <i>NCover</i>. Automating it is a great help and a real value. <br><br>But as it appears, Pex for VS 2008 is licensed only under the <i>Microsoft Research License Agreement</i> <b>for Non-Commercial Use Only</b>. So I couldn't use it in real world software development. This will only change for VS 2010, which, in my experience, will not play a vital role in production until the next 2-3 years. So, do I have to wait for this time and tell my customers <i>Well, a tool exists that could save you lots of money, but sadly we're not allowed to use it.</i> ? <br><br>(Background: I'm a software freelancer specialized in establishing and teaching quality and sustainability tools and strategies in .NET software projects (like e.g. unit test frameworks, automated build processes and the like...).) <br><br>Please reconsider this license issue - I cannot see any reason for it anyway. Otherwise there's no point for me (and I'm sure this also applies to many other people) to invest time in something that I cannot use in my profession. I'd greatly regret that!<br><br>Regards<br>Thomas </span> Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:22:35 Z2008-11-25T15:22:35Zhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#e13dc228-c4bd-46b2-95f0-f8c263c0aa72http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#e13dc228-c4bd-46b2-95f0-f8c263c0aa72C. Watfordhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=C.%20WatfordRelease Pex for 2008 nowOur business won't allow us to use software under the MSR-LA, and I'd very much like to get in Pex as part of our Best Practices for Test Suite Design. So +1 Release Early and Often (with a business friendly license, *cough*BSD*cough*).Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:07:23 Z2008-12-01T17:07:23Zhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#9bb3a9a7-8ff5-494b-926a-dca2b4937b7dhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#9bb3a9a7-8ff5-494b-926a-dca2b4937b7dcodeweaselhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=codeweaselRelease Pex for 2008 nowHi there,<br><br>I just learned about Pex, read a lot about it and spent the last hours playing with it (it's great!), just to find out that the current license does not allow using it in real-world development (e.g. using VS2008). Please, could you do a commercial release or release Pex under a more business-friendly license? There's really no point for most people to invest time in this if they cannot use it in their daily work! <br> Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:39:56 Z2008-12-02T09:39:56Zhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#d4ac6577-304f-4959-b9c8-5137d9ee65d4http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#d4ac6577-304f-4959-b9c8-5137d9ee65d4tschisslerhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=tschisslerRelease Pex for 2008 now Hi,<br><br>I played around with PEX and find it a great tool. I also showed it at some presentations and I hat a great feebdack on it. But when it came to the question &quot;Can I use this in my project?&quot; people are disappointed when I tell them about the Academic License. And for myself I'd like to get more then just &quot;play around experience&quot; and try how it works with real world projects. But this is currently not allowed by the license.<br><br>I would be very happy if you could provide a different license which allows using PEX in commercial projects or allow to purchase it to use it commercially.<br><br>ThomasThu, 04 Dec 2008 09:02:35 Z2008-12-04T09:02:35Zhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#fd763ccf-0b15-4782-8354-f9e6aa6f085dhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#fd763ccf-0b15-4782-8354-f9e6aa6f085dPatricio Vidalhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Patricio%20VidalRelease Pex for 2008 now Yes, please release Pex under a more commercial friendly license.  I started to look into Pex and started to spread the word on my company only to find out today this limitation :-(.<br>Patricio.Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:59:56 Z2008-12-08T21:59:56Zhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#9cabf8ae-8c5f-4817-ba82-3fd23f86edcchttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#9cabf8ae-8c5f-4817-ba82-3fd23f86edccJohn Mandiahttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=John%20MandiaRelease Pex for 2008 now+1 for releasing it for VS2008.<br><br>Teams will not be moving for a while to VS2010 and a lot of teams can't utilise Pex under the current license.<br><br>This is a real shame as people could benefit from it today (and based on the feedback you receive you can make the VS2010 version even better!!).<br><br>So I am sure myself and others would be overjoyed with a change in the license.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>John<br> Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:07:49 Z2009-01-13T23:07:49Zhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#fe708b8c-a566-47e1-89cc-4ae9512a0c55http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#fe708b8c-a566-47e1-89cc-4ae9512a0c55Pelihttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=PeliRelease Pex for 2008 now Hi all,<br><br>We just released a new version (0.9.40105.0) that extends the pre-release license to Visual Studio 2008 Team Dev or Team Test. <strong>This means that you can use Pex for commercial purposes in VS2008 TeamDev/TeamTest.</strong> Note that this is NOT a commitment to RTM the product with support for 2008. As usual, you can dowload this version from our download page at <br><br>     <a href="http://research.microsoft.com/pex/downloads.aspx">http://research.microsoft.com/pex/downloads.aspx<br></a><br>The full release notes are at <a href="http://research.microsoft.com/pex/releasenotes.aspx">http://research.microsoft.com/pex/releasenotes.aspx</a> .<br><br>Thanks,<br>The Pex Team. <hr class=sig> Jonathan de HalleuxWed, 14 Jan 2009 10:51:52 Z2009-01-14T21:35:49Zhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#f9c42691-ec7d-4356-9a51-f55accaaf2efhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#f9c42691-ec7d-4356-9a51-f55accaaf2efGiorgioGalantehttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=GiorgioGalanteRelease Pex for 2008 nowJonathan,<div><br>Can you briefly address the non-commercial usage concerns that users are having?  I understand that Microsoft would prefer to wait until VS2010, but if we have to wait 1-2 years, the community may as well implement their own version of this system, thereby fragmenting your user community once again (i.e. unit testing frameworks, etc.)</div><div><br></div><div>Sincerely,</div><div>Giorgio Galante <br></div>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:37:06 Z2009-01-14T13:37:06Zhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#a5e2d09c-3b74-4126-93b6-21565cc90a12http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#a5e2d09c-3b74-4126-93b6-21565cc90a12Pelihttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=PeliRelease Pex for 2008 now<p> Hi Giorgio,</p> <p>We just released a new version of Pex that allows provides a pre-release license for Visual Studio 2008. In other words, you can use Pex for commercial purposes, as part of the evaluation of the product.</p> <p>I think that's what you wanted to hear?</p> <p>Cheers,<br>Peli</p><hr class="sig">Jonathan de HalleuxWed, 14 Jan 2009 17:30:39 Z2009-01-14T17:30:39Zhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#75f4991a-7943-45dd-9d5d-9fada89a1690http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#75f4991a-7943-45dd-9d5d-9fada89a1690tschisslerhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=tschisslerRelease Pex for 2008 now Hi Jonathan,<br><br>good to hear that a commercial license is available now. Thanks a lot!Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:33:01 Z2009-01-14T17:33:01Zhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#3eb399dd-f782-43af-9c8e-d997b6d61d68http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#3eb399dd-f782-43af-9c8e-d997b6d61d68Mark Michaelishttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Mark%20MichaelisRelease Pex for 2008 nowWahoo!!<div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div><br></div><div>Mark</div>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:00:12 Z2009-01-14T19:00:12Zhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#5290f5ab-4dda-4e88-85bc-63f82ef0482dhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/pex/thread/6de5e77a-772c-444b-94e2-b7edd1004013#5290f5ab-4dda-4e88-85bc-63f82ef0482dEuan Gardenhttp://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Profile/en-US/?user=Euan%20GardenRelease Pex for 2008 now I do want to be very clear about what this means. We have enabled this support to make it easier to evaluate the product, this is NOT a commitment to RTM the product with support for 2008. The platform support will depend on many factors including the feedback from this fourm.<br><br>-Euan<hr class="sig">http://blogs.msdn.com/euangaWed, 14 Jan 2009 20:13:19 Z2009-01-14T20:13:19Z