Msbuild for vdproj

Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:49:51 Z

Automated Compiling of MSI project from MSBuild

I'm creating a automated build process, a process witch needs to result in 
the creation of a installer (.msi).

My choice was to use the Setup project in VS 2005 RC
Running Vs 2005 manually I am having no problems ...

I have tried a build MSBuild task with then projectfile mySetup.vdproj 
.... no succes
Msbuild says :
The project file mySetup.vdproj is not supported by MSbuild and cannot be built

Is it posible to automate such a project, and how ?

 Best Regard

Msbuild for vdproj

Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:33:57 Z

Hi,

Unfortunately, deployment projects are not supported via the MSBuild task, or if you are using msbuild.exe on a solution that contains a deployment project. We realize that this is an important scenario, but didn't make it into Visual Studio 2005.

We expect to work on enabling this scenario in one of the future releases.

In the mean time, if you want ot build these from the command line, you can run devenv.exe /build from the command line on the solution that contains your deployment project. It's not a pretty answer, but it is the workaround for now if you are building from the command line.

Faisal Mohamood
MSBuild Team

Msbuild for vdproj

Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:45:59 Z

I created a setup project and tried to compile it as below using devenv for a setup project.
C:\travail\DLLSetup>"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\Common7\IDE/devenv.com"
C:\travail\DLLSetup\DLLSetup.sln /build "Debug"
/project DLLSetup\DLLSetup.vdproj /projectconfig "Debug"

but this gives the error :

Microsoft (R) Visual Studio Version 8.0.50727.26.
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1984-2005. All rights reserved.
he operation could not be completed. Erreur non spÚcifiÚe
Use: devenv [solutionfile | projectfile | anyfile.ext] [switches]

This is when i use 2005 Release Candidate . But this process was successfull in 2003.

I want to know whether this is a known issue in 2005.

Thanks in advance.

Msbuild for vdproj

Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:52:54 Z

Sorry to hear that you had this problem with the .26 build. There was a known problem with the devenv /build command when building from the command line that has been fixed for the final build.

Out of curiosity - I am not sure what the exact error message is - what language are you using?

Thanks.
Faisal Mohamood
MSBuild Team

Msbuild for vdproj

Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:28:49 Z

C'est en Francais :) It says "unspecified error". This is the command-line build bug that existed in the release candidate that went out on the web. It has been fixed in later builds of Visual Studio.

Neil

Msbuild for vdproj

Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:23:39 Z

Hi Neil,

Is this the same case as C# Express?

My project compiled successfully using MS Visual Studio 2005 at work.

However it won't compile the vdproj at home using C# Express.

Any solution for this?

Thanks,

Indra

Msbuild for vdproj

Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:26:44 Z

I'm not sure if C# Express actually supports building Setup and Deployment projects. What error do you get?

Neil

Msbuild for vdproj

Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:01:03 Z

Sorry, actually C# Express just ignore the vdproj. It says "cannot find the application to open .vdproj", something like that. Is there a way to compile this using the command prompt or it's totally not supported in C# Express?

Msbuild for vdproj

Tue, 04 Apr 2006 13:55:18 Z

Microsoft whoudl really publish a knowledge base article about the incompatibility of MSI project (vdproj) and vcbuild. I lost a few hours searching the net and MSDN until I foud the proper search terms (deployment project compiler) that led to an MSDN article a few results down, that led to this forum, where I finally found help.

Msbuild for vdproj

Wed, 05 Apr 2006 05:17:16 Z

You can't build a .vdproj using C# Express. You need to have Standard or higher. MSBuild doesn't know anything about .vdproj files, and neither does vcbuild, so neither can actually do the build for you.

If you have Standard or higher of Visual Studio 2005 you can run devenv.exe /build on the .vdproj file to get it to compile from the command line.

Neil

Msbuild for vdproj

Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:40:18 Z

Will this make it into Orcas, or did it make it into Service Pack 1?

Thanks,
David

Msbuild for vdproj

Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:50:24 Z

Any updates on if this is going to be fixed? Pretty ridiculous to even have setup projects if msbuild can't support it. Spent many man hours creating our setup projects and now when we want to move to team server, we're completely dead in the water.

Msbuild for vdproj

Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:19:11 Z

I'm curious about this too. Will this be in the .NET 3.5 release?

Msbuild for vdproj

Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:14:17 Z

I've just tried MSBuild on a solution file that has a vdproj in it and MSBuild says it doesn't support vdproj. I'm using VS Orcas BETA 2 Team System, with .NET 3.5 installed

Kevin

Msbuild for vdproj

Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:15:36 Z

I been trying with the VS2008 RTM to do the same thing, but seems it isn't working either.

Msbuild for vdproj

Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:19:26 Z

No, it still doesn't work in .Net 3.5's MSBuild.

You can run InstallShield to commandline build on central servers though.

The trouble is, we were trying to move away from that to using Microsoft stuff.

Msbuild for vdproj

Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:53:40 Z

Any word from MS on when this is going to be fixed? We're about to start a nightly build, and it's going to be a pain to not have msi builds. This is a problem that's been going on three years now...

Msbuild for vdproj

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 02:42:29 Z

Exactly, this is rubbish. How can you be expected to put together an Enterprise level build environment when you need to install the IDE on the build box, it's not a very good option, what will the next recommendation be ? Build everything on the developers machine and then straight to production ?

What happened to :

"We realize that this is an important scenario, but didn't make it into Visual Studio 2005.

We expect to work on enabling this scenario in one of the future releases."

?

Msbuild for vdproj

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:10:09 Z

Of course it's not a total disaster - just not good, or shall we say 'a bit Microsoft'?

You can use devenv.com instead of msbuild.exe for your vdprojs.

That means a more complex central build script. It's more error prone so we're slower too.

Msbuild for vdproj

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:05:27 Z

Right, so the question still stands. Why is it that years have gone by without this getting fixed considering that MS stated that it was going to make it into a future version?

Msbuild for vdproj

Thu, 03 Apr 2008 01:41:19 Z

Couldn't agree more, but to fair to them they didn't say which future version, they could have meant Visual Studio 2038 ...

It is a bit 'off' though, if you're going to separate build tools from development tools at least do it properly, not half @rsed . It just seems pointless if we need to install the IDE on the build box anyway ...

Either that or don't bang on about how :

"MSBuild is completely transparent with regards to how it processes and builds software, enabling developers to orchestrate and build products in build lab environments where Visual Studio is not installed"

Really ?

Msbuild for vdproj

Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:09:29 Z

If you need to automate a build of an MSI, I'd recommend using WiX. You can convert your .vdprojto a Wix project and use MSBuild. It's bit of work but the .vdproj files are not MSBuild project files. I'm not sure why MS hasn't converted these projects yet but you can do it yourself.
Here's a decent article on the subject Wix Trix Article on using MSBuild.

thanks,
Brent

Msbuild for vdproj

Tue, 03 Feb 2009 12:44:02 Z

"Why is it that years have gone by without this getting fixed considering that MS stated that it was going to make it into a future version"

Because Microsoft has no intention of making msbuild support vdprojs.

Think about this. If you were tasked with designing a deployment project type and there was this great build system out there (msbuild), wouldn't one of your first designing goals be to make it work with it?

Vdprojs came after the msbuild system and, even though all other projects types were supported, Microsoft intentionally did not provide msbuild support for vdproj. Why?

money

Msbuild support means no need for a Visual Studio copy on your production box.

Msbuild for vdproj

Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:51:28 Z

Who would pay for that license anyway. I think instead of the answer being "money", it's "time". They don't want to spend the time to develop it and test upgrading the setup project files. Plus, they don't want to piss off all of folks who make installer packages like InstallShield.

Msbuild for vdproj

Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:13:24 Z

I'm another user who was just disgruntled to discover this roadblock. I was prompted to automate rebuilding products because Microsoft automatically pushes changes in their dependencies . What are we to do?