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How can I upgrade to Windows Developer Preview from Windows 7?

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  • ·         First and foremost, the Windows Developer Preview should not be considered a traditional upgrade option.  The developer preview is not intended for the general public, is not able to be uninstalled, and should not be installed over another version of Windows.  And while you can technically migrate from Windows 7 to the Windows Developer Preview without tools (as per the table below), it should not be used on a production machine, and instead, be installed only on a dedicated test machine, in a VM as per <this> thread, or into a separate partition as per <this> thread.   

    Install on:

    Windows 8 Developer Preview with developer tools

    Windows 8 Developer Preview without developer tools (32-bit or 64-bit)

    Windows 7 and Windows Vista

    Clean install only

    You can keep accounts, files, and settings (see note above)

    Windows XP

    Clean install only

    You can only keep accounts and files (see note above)

    7. září 2011 17:23

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  • ·         First and foremost, the Windows Developer Preview should not be considered a traditional upgrade option.  The developer preview is not intended for the general public, is not able to be uninstalled, and should not be installed over another version of Windows.  And while you can technically migrate from Windows 7 to the Windows Developer Preview without tools (as per the table below), it should not be used on a production machine, and instead, be installed only on a dedicated test machine, in a VM as per <this> thread, or into a separate partition as per <this> thread.   

    Install on:

    Windows 8 Developer Preview with developer tools

    Windows 8 Developer Preview without developer tools (32-bit or 64-bit)

    Windows 7 and Windows Vista

    Clean install only

    You can keep accounts, files, and settings (see note above)

    Windows XP

    Clean install only

    You can only keep accounts and files (see note above)

    7. září 2011 17:23
  • Actually, the above chart does not seem right?

    When I went to install it it said "Keep nothing" but after installation, all my files where still there (apart from Program files).
    So I don't think it's really a clean installl.

    Regards,

    Dylan Meeus


    0x2B |~ 0x2B Blog : www.it-ca.net/blogdylan
    15. září 2011 4:10
  • If you select "Keep Nothing" It will do the upgrade, HOWEVER, it will copy your old windows install (win7) to a folder named Windows.old in the root of your installation drive.
    15. září 2011 5:42
  • Don't do it man. If you have a desktop or laptop, the Metro UI is horrible interface that cripples the Windows desktop/laptop experience. My advice to you is to install it on a seperate partition. I hope I'm not too late, I only wish to save you from this dreaded fate.
    15. září 2011 8:20
  • Probably a VERY bad idea to "upgrade" to the Dev Preview...instead just stick it on a new partition.

    This is NOT a finished product and is inferior to Windows 7 at this stage.

    15. září 2011 10:52
  • I agree, install on a seperate partition. The system will give you a nice interface to choose which OS you would like to boot from. If, however, you want to upgrade, be sure to boot from the setup disk and choose the upgrade option. If you boot into Windows 7 and then install from the disk, you will have to reinstall all your applications.
    15. září 2011 13:38
  • Hey Michael I´ve recently installed Windows Developer Preview.

    I realize after performing the installation that was not possible to return to my previous Windows 7 64 bit OS.

    My question is during the installation of Windows Developer Preview all my previous files were deleted ?

    Can I restore them ? Or just restore from original Windows 7 new installation ?

    please reply to my email lorencogonzaga@gmail.com

    Thanks

     

    Cheers!

    16. září 2011 16:08
  • agreed, dual-booting is the keyword here. The interface is absolutely not ready for full use. It's not even a beta yet, it's not feature complete, it's terribly bugged, it's not even the version that MS devs are running right now, but a couple of chosen features that they want to show us to advertise the product (nothing sarcastic here, I have no problem with that). I chose myself to give it a shot and removed it after one day or two. Yeah, I don't like it.
    16. září 2011 18:23
  • Hi Michael,

    One thin you my add is if you run the Windows Developer Preview with developer tools setup from Windows 8, you also only get the Clean Install Option, even if you installed it from the very same media before.


    17. září 2011 12:45
  • What worked well for me was to set up for dual-boot with an existing 32-bit W7. I started by shrinking the W7 partition by a few hundred GB. I then booted up on the DVD I made from the ISO download of the 64-bit Preview and installed that into the blank space on the hard drive. It set up a touch enabled dual boot selector with W8 as the default. Like all dual-boot setups, it's easy enough to select the original W7. Of interest, when I changed the default to W7, it changed the dual-boot interface to the traditional non-touch interface. It's also interesting that the WEI for graphics is a lot higher with 64-bit W8 than 32-bit W7.

    So far, this preview runs pretty well on my MSI AE2020 (20" AIO, multitouch, ION). The touch seems more mature - smooth and clean. Maybe someone been playing with an iPad.  :)

    Bye.

    21. září 2011 16:39
  • I am using Windows 8 Dev. Prev. with Dev. Tools X64 as my main OS and it works very well. I never had any problem. :)

    Bye.

    23. září 2011 3:22
  • if i upgrade the windows 7 to windows developer preview 8 will my windows still remain activated or will expire after  some days

     

    23. září 2011 10:11
  • if i upgrade the windows 7 to windows developer preview 8 will my windows still remain activated or will expire after  some days

     

     
    Windows8 DP will expire around march-april. There is no official date yet however.

    Regards,

    Dylan Meeus


    0x2B |~ 0x2B Blog : www.it-ca.net/blogdylan
    23. září 2011 11:35
  • if i upgrade the windows 7 to windows developer preview 8 will my windows still remain activated or will expire after  some days

     


    I have to concur wholeheartedly with the above comments about NOT UPGRADING.....   bear in mind I am a true-blue Microsoft fan and have been since before MS-DOS v4.11, but upgrading OS's nearly never works out right...   you will get a much improved "preview" by either a) creating a separate partition on your existing harddrive and loading a new, fresh copy of WinDevPre (NOTE:  I recommend if you go this route to employ a boot loader...  you know a menu when you first start the PC that allow you to select which OS installation you want to run), b) downloading the trial version of VMware Workstation 8 (version 7 won't work) and creating a virtual machine from your downloaded ISO of WinDevPre, c) grab an old spare harddrive (or better yet, give the economy a boost and buy a new one), get a Phillips screwdriver out, install the "new" harddrive, and then load a fresh clean copy of WinDevPre, d) make sure you download the ISO that does NOT have the tools also added and install over the top of your existing Windows 7 installation... your old personal files and program folders will be under Windows.Old after the install.... then just copy back over your old files/folders....  NOTE:  Make sure you have handy any copies of previously loaded software...  you will need them, or lastly e) don't do anything....  until the official release.  Alpha, Beta, Preview, and Developer builds are characterized as "experimental" and/or "undergoing active development and debugging."  As such, being an early adopter can under some situations... be frustrating...  but... you've got Bing and Google readily available (assumedly) on another PC or laptop.  If you get lost just plain language search describing what you are experiencing and 9 times out of 10... you'll find an answer....  Knowing is 1/2 the battle...  not knowing, but seeking out and finding your own answers... is the other 1/2.  Good luck and I hope your experiences with Windows ____  will be as great as mine is!

     

    -Paul


    26. září 2011 7:38
  • "...The interface is absolutely not ready for full use. It's not even a beta yet, it's not feature complete, it's terribly bugged, ..... Yeah, I don't like it."


    Phillippe:  Would you care to share and itemize for the community exactly what aspects of the interface are not "ready for full use."  I realize it may not be feature-complete, but unless those features are required for what you do with your PC, not sure how that would prevent full use.  In fact, as a matter of "law" I remove and/or disable any feature I don't use or need (especially when speaking in terms of Server implementations).  I have been running the client and server on many different architectures in my test/dev lab and have not encountered any major or critical issues.  I am interested to know exactly what causes you to label the preview release as "terribly buggy."  I am sure both the community and Microsoft would appreciate specifics to shore up your noted, but short-lived experience with the preview build so as to further the cause, so-to-speak.  If you don't like it, what is it you don't like about it?  Yes, the UI is a new, different experience.  It takes a little getting used to.  But I wouldn't ever say "different" always = "bad."  I found that the new UI grows on you and after a while you may realize as I did what great forethought and vision into how people can use their computers and phone in the future, how to more closely align those methods, and how to increase productive flow resulting from reduced required user input interaction in conjunction with dynamic information streams from disparate services.

    Not sure where the politics on it all stands, but I can't disagree with your position more.  And I apologize... I am not trying to show you up, ry, but I just couldn't let stand what you said as it was stated.  There are a lot of potential new PC users who might view this forum... and I believe it only fair to illuminate the details for them so as to not discourage anyone from experiencing some true innovation. 

    I have found the client and server builds to be solid, extremely quick (much faster than Windows 7... and we all know how Windows 7 was a speed demon over Vista, et al), and developmentally decently mature.  I encourage anyone to beta a build....  do like the 'Nix guys do.... grab an old dusty PC in a back closet or somewhere... blow the dust off... and load a build... believe it or not it makes old PCs look like Viagra for PCs just came out! (*Old being one to three or four years old.... I'm not talking about the ancient museum-level stuff...   say circa Pentium IV 2.0 Ghz /1024MB of RAM and up... and you'll be fine).

    -Paul

    26. září 2011 7:59
  • I totally agree with everything you said.  I too, at the very beginning, found the Metro UI daunting, and like others, thought "this isn't going to work".  But after playing with it for a few hours, I felt as comfortable with Metro as I did with my old Windows 7 desktop.  For me, the learning curve was very short and it has convinced me to switch now to a Windows 7 phone.  And my 4 second boot time on my HP dv7t laptop is just amazing.  Like you, I wish those who are saying it is "terribly buggy" or that it doesn't work would give us some specifics.  Not working like the traditional desktop doesn't make it "buggy".  And then too, it's only a Developers preview and one is forewarned to expect some bugs.  Regardless, I like it and can't wait for some Betas to become available.
    If all is not lost, where is it?
    26. září 2011 10:11
  • Don't upgrade and just dual boot Win 7 and Win 8.

    To do this you would need to create a partition (at least 20 GB -- depending on your system) using 'disk management' then install, choose the partition you have created, and you are good to go.

    Let me know if have questions.

    -Lemuel

    26. září 2011 10:51
  • Would be nice if you had left a correct URL.  Your link leads to this: 

    The account you were looking for doesn't exist.

    You may have mistyped the address. If you started the URL with "www" try it without "www".


    If all is not lost, where is it?
    26. září 2011 16:44
  • It is the correct URL.  Perhaps something was wrong when you tried earlier, but it is online and working now.

     


    MrShannon | Concurrency Blogs | UAG SP1 DirectAccess Configuration Guide
    2. října 2011 6:06
  • Thanks.  Yes, it is working now.  Appreciate the work you did on it.
    If all is not lost, where is it?
    2. října 2011 10:43
  • I cant belive that you ask that you have to go to Buildwindows.com and get the full installion download iso to download windows 8 development is just a preview of the new windows 8 they have not come out with a full description on the os yet.
    2. října 2011 19:55
  • Just for a preview iso that came from the buildwindows.com Microsoft website it better than any other os will windows platform that I have ever seen I been using the metro style apps on my notepad and they work they have to have a screen for 1028* something to work I don't know realy the screen stuff sorry for my language but it been pretty good don't hate the os yet they are just coming out please just let it have some time yet..

    2. října 2011 19:59
  • I think booting to a VHD File on you computer loses space on your hard drive and mist it up with everything else make your computer slower and other hand I have a netbook just saying sorry if I don't have a bigger hard drive but I can tell you right know just load windows 8 development preview on you computer it is better and most fast it will be okay people just try it out no VHD Please...
    2. října 2011 20:02
  • @travisbrown2012 I hope you are not proposing that people upgrade to the Windows 8 Developer Preview.  That should never be done, unless it's a computer you just don't care about and just want to play.  But never on a production unit.
    If all is not lost, where is it?
    2. října 2011 20:15
  • Short answer - you can't, you don't.

    Folks, I'll admit I did not read the entire thread... after reading the initial entry I went immediately to the following response...

    The query needs no reply & is a moot point; allow me to explain...

    It does not matter whether or not one can do an upgrade to Win8 Dev Preview from Win7 or not or how.

    (I'll interject here, I Beta Tested Vista & Win7 through Pre-Beta to Beta, to RC to RTM to GA.)

    Reason 1. You do not/can not go from any of the stages, steps (versions) to the next by anything but, Clean Installs.
    Reason 2. Even GAs done as Upgrades, we discovered was not something to prefer or recommend; though suggested as doable, seemed Clean Installs gave the best results.
    Reason 3. ALWAYS put anything less than a GA, at least, on it's own drive/partition (creats dual-boot) and IDEALLY, optimum, Best Practice, done as a virtual machine.  NEVER on a main drive & or production machine. 

    I ahould, also, mention, we are going to go through the same process/sequence w/ Win8... Beta, RC, RTM, GA; the Win8 Dev Preview, technically, isn't even a Beta, just a preview; patience, Folks, patience.

    PS: I have Win8 Dev Preview live on a virtual machine!

    Regards,
    Drew
    Computer Issues
    Clients Welcome
    Drew MS Partner / MS Beta Tester / Pres. Computer Issues Pres. Computer Issues www.drewsci.com


    • Navržen jako odpověď Drew1903 3. října 2011 4:10
    • Upravený Drew1903 4. října 2011 15:07
    3. října 2011 4:10
  • Probably a VERY bad idea to "upgrade" to the Dev Preview...instead just stick it on a new partition.

    This is NOT a finished product and is inferior to Windows 7 at this stage.


    I'm running it in a VirtualBox virtual machine: it's safer than any other way and the performances are not too bad.

    Bye.


    Luigi Bruno - Microsoft Community Contributor 2011 Award
    4. října 2011 21:30
  • Also, not just 'playing' w/ it, as opposed to trying to use this VERY ADVANCED (timewise) illiteration of an OS that IS COMING (this ain't it, yet) is a bit silly since many websites & software will not be compatible w/ it or support it, yet.  Just another reason to NOT make this advance offering a 'daily driver' and really that should wait 'til the Win8 RTM or GA.

    Please stay dual-boot to its own drive/partition or a virtual machine 'til RTM or GA.  Unless you have a spare machine, if so, go nuts & put it that.

    Drew
    Computer Issues
    Clients Welcome


    Drew MS Partner / MS Beta Tester / Pres. Computer Issues Pres. Computer Issues www.drewsci.com
    • Navržen jako odpověď Drew1903 5. října 2011 7:01
    5. října 2011 7:01
  • I've been using it on my laptop (dual booting) since it became available.  So far, the only program that I use that doesn't work is a Beta version of PaintShop Pro X4.  Other than that, all other programs I've tried, as well as different browsers, work well, except for one little glitch, which has already been reported via Feedback.  All my banking sites work just fine with it.  I've got all my programs pinned to the Metro UI Start screen and in the order I like them, so as far as I'm concerned, this Developer Preview is working well.  But that's just me and maybe I'm just lucky.
    If all is not lost, where is it?
    5. října 2011 10:09
  • As in 'Lucky Larry'? (wink, wink)

    Ok, 1st of all, Larry, you are doing it a right way, ie dual-boot...the other right way being a virtual machine.  MAYBE everything or almost all, will be ok but, ppl should be prepared that all sites & software MAY not, yet be ready (for Win8).  Still that is a separate matter from the fact that nothing prior to RTMs or GAs of Operating Systems should be run on primary, production machines & if on one's only machine, then NOT w/out dual-boot or virtualizing.

    Drew
    Computer Issues
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    Drew MS Partner / MS Beta Tester / Pres. Computer Issues Pres. Computer Issues www.drewsci.com
    5. října 2011 19:42
  •  Exactly Drew.  Of course with the billions of web sites out there and the thousands of software out there, I'm sure there are going to be some that are not going to work yet.  But time will tell and I can't wait for the first Beta to become available.  And as soon as the HTC Titan becomes available I'm switching to the Windows 7 Phone.
    If all is not lost, where is it?
    5. října 2011 20:39
  • You will enjoy that, to be sure.

    I'm in Win8 now.  So far I found a web site I use daily that displays fine in 8.  A part w/in it requires Member log-in.  In 8, after the user name & password are entered nothing happens.  Does what it should in 7 or earlier.  Most things may or will be ok but... there can be exceptions.

    @ least that phone will display/run everything.

    I had a client yesterday who had an iPad, as well as some Windows laptops.  Sites would not be complete for her.  I explained & showed her, was because the device would not support java or flash.

    Drew
    Computer Issues
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    Drew MS Partner / MS Beta Tester / Pres. Computer Issues Pres. Computer Issues www.drewsci.com
    5. října 2011 20:56
  • I know, and people have been told that it doesn't support Java and Flash, but they still just want to blame the OS and bash Microsoft.  Sometimes I hate to read any articles about anything Microsoft because I know what the comments are going to be like.  I just don't understand the mentality of some people.  I really think most of the problems people encounter are caused by PEBKAC.  LOL
    If all is not lost, where is it?
    5. října 2011 22:05
  • & that would be something like the loose nut in the chair...

    I read about the woes of RIM & the stats of iWhatever & then I think how Playbook's do Flash & Java & iPADs don't & it leaves me baffled.

    This jibes w/ what you said... (2 things)... I remember when Vista came out & 3rd party stuff didn't work cus they were not Vista Ready... no drivers or patches, software & hardware that didn't support Vista;  & the 'people' blames the OS & bashed Microsoft.

    I remember when SP1 for XP came out... 'people' avoiding it like the plague & telling others it was bad & broke things & after it was put in things did not or would work right or run right, anymore.  Of course, 'they' hadn't bothered w/ the "What to do or what to know BEFORE installing SP1".  & all that basically said was make sure you are going to be installing SP1 to a clean, healthy machine then, it can be/should be installed (successfully).  Put it in 'dirty', poor state machine & gosh, there may be negative consequences.

    Drew
    Computer Issues
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    Drew MS Partner / MS Beta Tester / Pres. Computer Issues Pres. Computer Issues www.drewsci.com
    6. října 2011 6:37
  • LOL You got that right Drew and you know that all those other "Fanboys" think it's just so much more fun to bash Microsoft than to actually try to do things the right way.  The major problems comes in when they start "tweeking" the OS, supposedly to "fix it" to work they way they want it to.  Then when there's an update, of course it's probably not going to work correctly because of their "tweeking".   How in the heck do they expect any software development team to know what they are doing and compensate for it?  Maybe that's why I've been so lucky with any OS I've tried.  I let it run the way it's supposed to and don't have any problem.  And if I do, invariably it will be because the software I'm trying to run isn't compatible with the new OS and I don't think Microsoft should be blamed for that.
    If all is not lost, where is it?
    6. října 2011 12:01
  • I do concur with the others when they said do't upgrade. I dual booted it, and then I used it for an hour, and then I gave up. There were a couple of reasons for ths. The first was that WDP runs so slow that it can't keep up with my typing, regularly missing letters. The second is usability, as the metro menu is horrible, and doesn't contain many of the things we take for granted, including closing an app and shutting down. You have to log off to shut down, which wastes time. Furthermore, WDP has it's own bootloader, a more graphical version of the current one. However, it takes over the whole computer, appearing to be booting WDP before showing it. It then proceeds to restart the computer should you click on Win7... Massive waste of time in my opinion, I would recommend waiting until RC1 comes out before you bother...
    8. října 2011 16:46
  • Right, Dave... the Win8 Dev Preview is not meant as anything but, 'teaser', a mere peek @ things on the horizon or better put, coming over the hill.  It is just meant as something to 'pay with' & a glimpse @ something sorta close to what is going to be.  Designed to show Developers some rugh idea of what will be possible & how much easier such things will be, needing less coding, etc.  It is & was never meant to replace 'daily driver' installlations of Win7, be used on production machines or on primary drives/partitions.  Even once MS gives me & other prior Beta Testers notice to start working on/with the pre-beta & betas, it is not prudent (or intended) to use anything in any other way than virtual or dual-boot, until the RTM or GA.   & although, some ppl may feel using the Dev Preview enticing & the experience very cool, it is quite valid that you point out, really expectations of it in terms of performance & perfection of functionality should not be too high. 

    Ppl could think of it this way... consider Betas, even RCs as premature births & the Win8 Dev Preview as just an interesting embryo... a long way from being ready to walk about on it's own!

    Drew
    Computer Issues
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    Drew MS Partner / MS Beta Tester / Pres. Computer Issues Pres. Computer Issues www.drewsci.com
    • Upravený Drew1903 8. října 2011 18:23
    8. října 2011 18:21
  • Dude, the article is was great. If only I had known that this could be done. I just reinstalled Win7 last night. I had to switch back to win7 since there is still a lot of things to be done in the developers preview.

    jAgAnnath08
    9. října 2011 0:11
  • Bill, I would suggest you should try shannon's article by doing a dual boot. You should be upgrading to the developers preview not on your main PC.

    jAgAnnath08
    9. října 2011 0:14
  • Remember, Bill, once & if your Win7 is on track... you can create a dual-boot scenario OR create a virtual machine for such things... the 2 options are both there for you.

    Drew
    Computer Issues
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    Drew MS Partner / MS Beta Tester / Pres. Computer Issues Pres. Computer Issues www.drewsci.com
    9. října 2011 15:08
  • I agree that it is best installed on a separate partition, but WDP does not cripple the advanced user experience as you suggest, xGarthx. I've had to find workarounds for a few things. The Start Menu is a useful thing to have in my opinion, but it's not there in WDP. I worked around that by setting the Start Menu folder as a toolbar on the taskbar. I've been doing all the advanced things I do with windows xp and 7 on WDP, with few problems. I just hope they don't work towards scuttling the advanced desktop experience in the beta and RC releases. And I would really like to have the Start Menu back. My advice on installing any preview, beta, or RC is to get a free program like BootIt NG, if it's still out there. (I have the SATA version on a CD.) You can use it to resize a partition or partitions on your drive to make room for a new partition. I've never had a problem with data loss or corruption when resizing a drive. After resizing, you can create an HPFS/NTFS partition in the free space, then put your windows disc in and install. After installing a dual-boot, right click Computer on the desktop of the latest OS, then select Properties. In win7 or WDP, click Advanced System Settings at the left. Then click the Settings button under Startup and Recovery. There you can choose which OS you want to boot by default, and how long you want it to show the boot menu before booting the default OS. The metro desktop is fun to play around with, but it's pretty useless for the tasks that I do. After WDP starts, I immediately click the desktop tile to get in familiar territory.
    • Upravený rdbrooks 11. října 2011 4:11
    11. října 2011 4:07
  • From desktop find sources\setup.exe instead of autorun and will bring back windows 7  install options.

    23. října 2011 8:28
  • I've also installed it on a separate partition and find it a pleasure to use. I go directly to the desktop since the apps. really aren't useful at this point.

    I find Windows 8 to be much faster than Windows 7. I've also installed it on a 10.1 inch netbook and it now flies. I've had no problems running anything that's worked on windows 7 and have the default boot set to go directly to Windows 8.

    I personally feel that the Metro Desktop is the Windows Phone designed for us old folks so that we can see what we're doing.


    Organ Donors save lives.
    4. listopadu 2011 15:24
  • Well, I tried to run Win8 Dev Preview on virtualbox but I failed so I gave it to my friend and he made it my main OS (from Win 7 64 bit). It's been rather cool and it's a lot faster. Getting the hang of if but I know this is only the beginning. My question:

    When the 'Real' OS comes out and I decide to get it, will I be able to go back to the way my files were when I was running Win 7?

    6. listopadu 2011 23:02
  • Maybe, is all that can be said, right now.  You should not have replaced your Win7 w/ the Dev Preview, in the 1st place!  It's not an adult, it's not even an infant, more like an unborn fetus.  One should never, ever even do that until @ least an RTM.  Not even with a Beta OS should that be done.  The Dev Preview is just a teaser, a sample of what (might) be coming... just something to play with, NOT @ all meant to be used as a "main system".  As to what one can expect of the GA, several months from now, that, in any detail or with any certainty, is very hard to prognosticate & I, for 1, will not guess.

    Until, @ least RTM, should, absolutely, only be vm or multi-boot.  No way will you be able to 'upgrade' from the Dev Preview; to that I will give an educated guess.

    Kindest Regards,
    Drew
    Drew MS Partner / MS Beta Tester / Pres. Computer Issues Pres. Computer Issues www.drewsci.com
    • Upravený Drew1903 7. listopadu 2011 1:20
    • Navržen jako odpověď Drew1903 7. listopadu 2011 1:20
    7. listopadu 2011 1:19
  • Read My stuff here:

    http://22at11.wordpress.com/windows-8-developer-previewrantsraves/

    ask me some impossible questions about what You think can't be done or having problems with, I'll Help.

    Thanks

    22. listopadu 2011 5:20
  • Althought I did not do this from Windows 7 to Windows 8, I did however Upgrade Server 08R2 to Windows Server Developer Preview by deleting the file named 'noupgrade' in the Sources folder of the ISO.

     

    The upgrade kept even my hyper-v VMs, and everything appeared to work fine, except for RemoteFX performance being horrible.

     

    I imagine it would work the same way from Windows 7 to Windows Dev Preview. . .

    • Navržen jako odpověď JoeyDee1986 23. listopadu 2011 3:36
    23. listopadu 2011 3:35
  • Hello Michael,

    I installed Windows Developer Preview  by using the upgrade option from Windows 7. It checked for license while installing but now it shows as evaluation copy does this mean I lost my license for Windows 7 as well. It deleted all the software which I installed on my laptop and now I'm re-doing all. Can you please clarify the same.  


    Anything and everything is for a period of time. - Sockkalingam
    26. listopadu 2011 18:12
  • What you did was a real fax pas.  You NEVER replace a primary OS w/ anything less than RTM.  You will have to rebuild Windows 7 using its Key.  You not lost you license for Windows 7.

    You only run the Dev Preview as a virtual machine or w/ a dual-boot scenario on its own drive /partition, separate from the production machine/OS

    This is true for any & all stages of an evolving OS, through any betas & as stated, @ least til the RTM.

    Cheers,
    Drew
    Drew MS Partner / MS Beta Tester / Pres. Computer Issues Pres. Computer Issues www.drewsci.com
    • Navržen jako odpověď Drew1903 27. listopadu 2011 16:33
    27. listopadu 2011 16:33
  • :-( Thats bad, because my Windows 7 CD is in India and I'm now in United Kingdom. Its not possible to install Windows 7 again. Now what will I do? 

    Is there any idea as why the cursor behaves so odd while typing it automatically goes to some location and continue from there.

     

     


    Anything and everything is for a period of time. - Sockkalingam
    27. listopadu 2011 17:53
  • Okay...  so you made a mistake... that's life... let's talk about best possible remediation:

    if it deleted everything (i.e. a clean install)...  you "might" be able to recover "some" information by using a deep scan with a file/folder undelete utility.  Recurva (*Bing it to find the site) is a free one that does a somewhat acceptable job AND is pretty KISS simple to learn to use.  The product key can be located "if" you can recover enough information from the previously deleted install.... If you get that far, holler and I'll step you through extracting the product key...

    Then you can find an ISO for the EXACT same Windows 7 version you had...  and go that route to get you back to somewhere close to where you were prior to the mistake.  

    This is a tough project overall though for a non-IT person, but if you have the will and the effort....  there is some hope!  Also, remember... the more you use the computer (in question) now.... the less chance of successful file/folder recovery.   

    On the cursor bit...  yes, one of the irritating, but not critical bugs I and others I know have experienced is a slowness with typed commands and their corresponding symmetry with the proper cursor position.  This is especially noted often inside of FaceBook's app...   whether its related to IEv10 or Win8DevPre or a combination of both... not sure...  but this has been reproducible on a wide array of systems.


    28. listopadu 2011 0:07
  • Hello Paul,

     

    Will check the Recurva software, hope this helps me to get my license back. 

    Regarding the cursor one of our friend as recommended to set the cursor speed. So looking for that.

    Let me see.

     

    Thanks again.


    Anything and everything is for a period of time. - Sockkalingam
    28. listopadu 2011 0:19
  • K, let me know... I am willing to help.

     

    Recurva:  http://www.piriform.com/recuva/download

    free version is full capable... no support on it though as free version.

     

    Again, this is NO sure fire way to get all back like it was...  but is your BEST route to that goal based upon what you said.

    28. listopadu 2011 0:22
  • Hello Paul,

    using  the link that you have provided I've downloaded and I've almost 92642 files so which one that we are looking for?

     

    Regards


    Anything and everything is for a period of time. - Sockkalingam
    28. listopadu 2011 1:11
  • THIS IS FOR LEGITIMATE OWNERS OF A WINDOWS LICENSE:  (*disclaimer)

    The first step is getting the ntuser.dat file from the computer. First, we need to be able to see the file.  Open Windows Explorer...  click on FILE at the top left... change folder and search options...  then click VIEW tab... then uncheck "hide protected operating system files."  Click Apply...  Now...    ntuser.dat is generally located here:  C:\Users\(User Name)\ntuser.dat   where (User Name) is the primary account   BUT in this case it will be located "somewhere" in the recovered files Recurva found (hopefully it found this).

    Now that you have the file, you need to be able to view it. I recommend loadhive.exe (Download it here) from matcode.com.  Just run the program and select the file. It will show you a message with more information. It is important that you do not close this program until you are finished viewing the registry, as it temporarily loads the file, and unloads it again when you exit.

     

    Now run regedit. Under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE you will notice a new sub-key called NTUSER. Starting with NTUSER go to Software > Microsoft > Windows NT > Current Version.  In the right window, double-click on DigitalProductID. This is the entry that contains the encoded product key.

    We want the information in bytes 52 to 66. We need the 15 sets of numbers where the 1’s are located.  Now that you have the 15 bytes encrypted code, you can type in any windows product key decrypter tool (Bing for this).  Just click ‘Decrypt Code‘ and you will have your Win product key.  

     

    If you cannot find the DigitalProductId key in the file you loaded earlier, try the software hive located here:  \%SystemRoot%\System32\config\software  (from the old recovered Windows folder only)

     

    Load it the same way as before. Under regedit, it will generally create the new entries here:     HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE_00 (although the loadhive program will tell you where it puts it).

     

    • If you are not sure which user account to select, I recommend searching for all ntuser.dat files on the drive, and using the largest one.
    • Do not attempt to open your own ntuser.dat file with Load Hive, because it is already in use, and you already have access to your own registry:)
    • If you cannot find the proper key with the data you need, try the alternate hive file, mentioned above.

     

    Hope you get right on your situation and that this has helped you out.  Holler if ya get lost.  Peace out.... ;)

    ALSO:  If this gets you out of your situation.... please pay me back by becoming an even more avid Microsoft fan, user, and more importantly... active participant here on these forums!  ;)  

     





    28. listopadu 2011 1:38
  • This is not such a wise idea, for things like this you should always test on a Virtual Machine or spare computer. Oh! And if you try AL WAYS backup!!!

    Thanks,

    30. listopadu 2011 0:16
  • Hi all,

    Finally I installed Win 7 Ultimate in my Laptop. Almost two days went with no use in installing Win 7 and updates. Need to install all software as well :-(


    Anything and everything is for a period of time. - Sockkalingam
    30. listopadu 2011 10:18
  • This is not such a wise idea, for things like this you should always test on a Virtual Machine or spare computer. Oh! And if you try AL WAYS backup!!!

    Thanks,

    He (or she... not sure from the profile info for the user with the issue) has NO other choice..... IF you READ their post.....  he/she accidentally installed Dev Preview OVER the existing Win7 install he/she had....  He/she already knows first hand that they made a mistake... how about providing ideas on how to SOLVE their noted issue(s)?.... not just reiterate the over-repeated mantra that non-IT people should probably be more cautious about how they decide to test/evaluate Win 8 Dev Preview.  The user in question obviously realizes this after the fact.

    Please read posts before replying on something... some people might get confused by a misunderstood reply (or post)....  Thank you.


    30. listopadu 2011 14:03
  • well usually.... you can go back to the software providers....   download another copy and re-install them...  Then, you can also try to copy the program files and program Data folders from your recovered folders.... into the current ones.... possibly any settings files from the any folders you might have recovered from your old Users folder also.  Then hopefully if the software apps were designed right... they will pick up any old settings you had.

     

    As I said in my previous post...  overall you had a tough job ahead of you.  Not for the meek at heart for sure.  Glad you got Win7 installed.


    30. listopadu 2011 14:06
  • Don't do it man. If you have a desktop or laptop, the Metro UI is horrible interface that cripples the Windows desktop/laptop experience. My advice to you is to install it on a seperate partition. I hope I'm not too late, I only wish to save you from this dreaded fate.

    If you are fussed about the metro UI, just disable it.

    Check http://www.rajith.me/2011/12/01/how-to-get-start-menu-back-in-windows-8/


    Rajith Enchiparambil | http://www.howexchangeworks.com |

    HowExchangeWorks.Com

    1. prosince 2011 15:43
  • ... so you can have the best of both worlds (start menu-wise... allows for classic AND Win8 MetroUI):  

    http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsdeveloperpreviewgeneral/thread/815cb729-900a-4d63-b578-1368ff2281e1

    (and I sure wish others (not you Rajith) would actually READ posts before replying...  would save a lot of useless reading of posts that have no relevance or constructive purpose.)




    1. prosince 2011 17:27
  • If you have a desktop or laptop, the Metro UI is horrible interface that cripples the Windows desktop/laptop experience. 

    Sorry, but the reality is that the shift has been made and I think you will soon find that Linux distros will follow suit in years to come.  Best thing to do is have simultaneous menu options (original, classic menu + MetroUI menu)... see post below.

    Sorry also that you feel that it cripples the experience... I and most others disagree with you.  Perhaps you can itemize and detail with specifics how the MetroUI is a "horrible interface that cripples" so that the community and Microsoft may benefit from your perspectives and experiences....  

    1. prosince 2011 17:35
  • I also disagree with the author of that statement.  I love the MetroUI and it in no ways cripples my Desktop experience.  There isn't anything I can't do in Windows 8 that I can do in Windows 7.  As a matter of fact, I haven't used Windows 7 on this laptop since I can't even remember when and it's been up and running Windows 8 for over a month without a reboot.  I enjoy the MetroUI so much that I even went from an Android phone to the Windows Phone with Mango.  Now my Windows 7 Desktop computer gets very little use.

    My only suggestion is to really give it time to settle in and I believe it will grow on you just like it grew on me.  I just hope I can get in on future betas.

    1. prosince 2011 21:19
  • I also disagree with the author of that statement.  I love the MetroUI and it in no ways cripples my Desktop experience.  There isn't anything I can't do in Windows 8 that I can do in Windows 7.  As a matter of fact, I haven't used Windows 7 on this laptop since I can't even remember when and it's been up and running Windows 8 for over a month without a reboot.  I enjoy the MetroUI so much that I even went from an Android phone to the Windows Phone with Mango.  Now my Windows 7 Desktop computer gets very little use.

    My only suggestion is to really give it time to settle in and I believe it will grow on you just like it grew on me.  I just hope I can get in on future betas.

    w00t, w00t!  Agreed in full w/o reservation or doubt.  I also have not used Win7 since BUILD.  I have active "production-level" usage going on both in the server arena and on the client-side.  I will be getting a Win 7.5 Phone for Christmas and will do what needs to be done to transition it to Win8 Phone as it becomes available to partners.
    1. prosince 2011 22:10
  • I will be getting a Win 7.5 Phone for Christmas and will do what needs to be done to transition it to Win8 Phone as it becomes available to partners.
    I have both the HTC HD7S and the HTC Titan. Both are awesome phones. I just know you're going to love whichever one you get. And Congratulations. Great Christmas gift.
    1. prosince 2011 23:51
  • 1. It is not an upgrade

    2. If you want to install it to play with it/act as a beta tester (as I did), install it alongside (dual boot). It is an imature OS for developers to start working with - think of it as post-alpha, pre-beta. It is still in development=incomplete driver model, bugs, etc. It has been pretty stable from my experience, but still has work to be compatible with a wide range of hardware for a beta release.

    • Navržen jako odpověď BrentOtter 25. ledna 2012 23:40
    25. ledna 2012 23:40
  • I just wanted to capitulate & support what Brent has said...

    (And, certainly, absolutely, the Win8 Developers Preview sure isn't any 'Upgrade' to anything!  Nor will anything be that, until final, general release of the product, then, Upgrade & Full Version install discs will be available in the marketplace)

    ------------------

     Win8 Dev Preview is not meant as anything but, 'teaser', a mere peek @ things on the horizon or better put, coming over the hill. It is just meant as something to'pay with' & a glimpse @ something sorta close to what is going to be. Designed to show Developers some rugh idea ofwhat will be possible & how much easier such things will be, needing less coding, etc. It is & was never meant to replace 'daily driver' installlations of Win7, be used on production machines or on primary drives/partitions. Even once MS gives me & other prior Beta Testers notice to start working on/with the pre-beta & betas, it is not prudent (or intended) to use anything in any other way than virtual or dual-boot,until the RTM or GA. & although, some ppl may feel using the Dev Preview enticing & the experience very cool, it is quite valid that you point out, really expectations of it in terms of performance & perfection of functionality should not be too high.

    Ppl could think of it this way... consider Betas, even RCs as premature births & the Win8 Dev Preview as just an interesting embryo... a long way from being ready to walk about on it's own!

    Drew
    Computer Issues
    Clients Welcome 

    >> (For the) Public OS release is GA
    Now, not meaning to confuse... not mixing here what can be done or found w/ whatshould be.
    >> Prior to GA there are 1 or more Betas & an RTM & OEMs & not for public consumption.
    >> Betas are attainable by & to ppl who test, work w/ & report (findings & feelings) to MS; an on-going & intergal part of the build process for & of the GA. The source for stages & offerings leading up to the GA is from & through MS Connect, TechNet & MSDN.
    >> MS, also, offered a W7 Beta publically.
    >> Windows 8, also, a DP (Developers Preview)
    Do not lean, too, heavily on the DP. The W8 DP is a sample, a taste & a tease, glimpse, a look into possibilities of Windows 8. It's not, even, @ Beta stage.Do not pass any sort of final judgement on aspects of Win8based on the DP. LOTS may, can & will be changed, removed or added as we work & wait through the next 10 months or so. Nor are illiterations of a forthcoming OS, DPs & Betas, meant for daily, "production machine" or primary drive use.

    --------------------------------

    As a personal note, I, too, have been having fun 'playing with' Win8 DP since September.  Seems ok, FOR WHAT IT IS... bit crude & rough around the edges but, works alright & has indications of some funky features & functionality TO COME.


    Drew MS Partner / MS Beta Tester / Pres. Computer Issues Pres. Computer Issues www.drewsci.com
    • Upravený Drew1903 26. ledna 2012 0:24
    • Navržen jako odpověď Drew1903 26. ledna 2012 0:24
    26. ledna 2012 0:18
  • On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 00:18:42 +0000, Drew1903 wrote:

    I just wanted to capitulate & support?what Brent has said...

    Might want to drag out a dictionary. The actual meaning of one of the words
    above isn't even close to what you seem to think it is.


    Paul Adare
    MVP - Forefront Identity Manager
    http://www.identit.ca
    Semi-conductor:  A person hired to lead an orchestra before he has
    graduated
    from director's school.

    26. ledna 2012 0:45
  • How nicely put.  Wondered @ the time about using that word there.

    Should have been collaborate, since you bothered to mention it.

    But, good no focus lost on the rest of the text.  
    Drew MS Partner / MS Beta Tester / Pres. Computer Issues Pres. Computer Issues www.drewsci.com
    26. ledna 2012 8:41
  • How nicely put. Wondered @ the time about using that word there.
     
    Should have been collaborate, since you bothered to mention it.
    Actually, I think you meant recapitulate.
     
    The relationship between the words capitulate and recapitulate seems to be related to an archaic meaning of capitulate, which is to negotiate, as opposed to its modern meaning which is to surrender (perhaps after negotiating).
     

    David Wilkinson | Visual C++ MVP
    26. ledna 2012 12:00
  • Yes, David, thanks.  Was just wanting to use a word that indicated I was agreeing with & adding re-enforcement to what Brent had said.

    Drew MS Partner / MS Beta Tester / Pres. Computer Issues Pres. Computer Issues www.drewsci.com
    26. ledna 2012 20:50
  • You maybe better off doing it this way, it does not require the use of ANY DVD and also allows you to upgrade to the developer tools version, if needed as well.

    More here: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsdeveloperpreviewgeneral/thread/4d8c3257-35e7-47a7-9d9c-3bccdafbc354

    11. února 2012 4:34
  • Brent Otter and Drew:

    You are so very wrong in your answer...  Developer Preview is actually MUCH closer to a RTM than you'd believe.  All one needs to think about is the early Vista and Windows 7 betas...  they were much less refined than the Developer Preview.  Win 8 Dev Pre was not some teaser, but rather an early development cycle edition meant for the loyal Microsoft developers' base and the "new" up and coming developers' base to get an early development cycle release that was mature enough to begin developing apps for the eventual RTM and Final Retail releases....  as is customary now days...  people want APPS when they get the new OS also... not merely a new OS with little to no APPS...

    Both I and a great many developers I know have been using Win 8 Dev Pre in Production since BUILD...   if you don't use it every day... how in the world can you say you have evaluated it and any apps you develop for it...  in real world circumstances...    *removed*

    Some people say I and the others are nuts...  we say we are the bold and learned...  do you know it inside and out?  have you encountered the day to day drills and issues one might in daily usage?  We merely deal with any issues as they arise... like any IT shop does with any app or OS or code ... and carry on in the day... that's evaluation... live and in production...  if you ain't got the heart and muscle, then don't say you can carry the flag and the day!

    Windows 8 Dev Pre client (and Server) are definitely NOT a long way from being able to stand or walk on their own...  your saying that by itself evidences your complete inexperience (and I'd normally say a bit more) vis-a-vis same.

    Too many people ra-ra about this and that about everything negative... focus on the positives with mindul eye on the negatives, but only insofar as what you might do to fix or workaround the negatives...  that's how you stay happy in your day...  glad I'm not at all like so many of the negative-riders in these forums...  me, I remember and still experience every day, a Microsoft who does a better job than most if not all other software companies at bringing to me and others the best in productive and entertaining software for home and businesses.  For all those naysayers out there... if you don't like 'em... shut up, go out and do it better, and economics will ride the day....  since no one had done it in all these years speaks very loudly.  I for one have been right there with them since the wee-wee MS-DOS v4.11 days...  and tried all the little alternatives by all the other crying companies...  and still ride with Microsoft any day.  They just simply put out better, quality, useful software PERIOD.




    13. února 2012 21:19
  • *removed*  I have been defending MS & Windows 8 against all kinds of stupid hype, assumptions & dumb rumours.  I very much believe in MS.  I am a Microsoft Partner, my company is a MS Partner company.  I founded the IT Pro User Group in my city FOR MS.  I beta-teted both Vista & Win7 @ Microsoft's request.

    I, too, have been running the DP since Build, back in September 2011 and I think it is terrific!!!

    I have not been speaking to Developers or even my peers but, rather those who think they know better than all of us including the Windows 8 Build Team.  People who seem to think it's hip to arbitrarily bash MS & Windows Operating Systems or Metro Start screens.

    *removed*

    Maybe you're just having a hard time to see the message & attitude being putforth & expressed & actually 'see' to whom  it was directed  & or why.  You're singing your song to the wrong person... bit misguided


    Drew MS Partner / MS Beta Tester / Pres. Computer Issues Pres. Computer Issues www.drewsci.com


    13. února 2012 22:50
  • If you think its terrific... then say so like you just did...  I read all you have posted.... neither I nor others I know came up with that impression...  if you think its terrific...  great, glad your in the club...  one can't really tell by your posts. 
    13. února 2012 23:07
  • but I'll state I apologize for the rudeness if it was misguided.... I (like you have stated) get tired of the naysayers.  If one can't get behind and support something then move on.
    13. února 2012 23:09
  • Hey everyone,

    To assist with thread management we are going to lock this thread. If you would like to continue the discussion or have additional questions feel free to create a new thread.


    Steven

    13. února 2012 23:25